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04-22-2024, 07:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Western NY
Posts: 564
M.O.C. #28430
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Suspension Bushing replacement intervals
So still going over Monty after returning home late last week and this morning when I lifted the tires off the ground enough to get a pry bar under them to check for suspension movement I knew I would be changing wet bolt bushings. I carry a four pack of bronze bushings by Dexter and a couple of spare wet bolts so I figured I might as well at least change the spring eye bushings on one axle while I wait for the rest of the bushings to arrive. My question is when you guys change these, do you generally see that the spring eye bushings need to be changed in as little as 10,000 miles? I have 15,000 on the trailer and the spring eye bushings were worn, cracked and broken, totally destroyed, but the Road Armor bushings were like new. Everything was tight when checked in the fall before we left so the spring eye bushings disintegrated in the last 4000 miles. Are the Road armor bushings superior to the Dexter brand and if so, where can I get them? Or is this the nature of the beast and I need to change my bushings every 18-24 months?
I grease them 3 times per year, which equates to about every 1800 miles. Thanks
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Mark & Karen
2021 3121rl - slide toppers, cottage white, X-Factors, disc brakes, 300ah of Lithium, DC/DC charging, Gen-Y pinbox. 2021 F-350, 6.7L, SRW CC LB - B&W Companion
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04-22-2024, 07:45 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Alton
Posts: 2,928
M.O.C. #24086
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Looks about right.
I bought two complete sets of bolts bushings and shackles last September at the rally. I have not changed them yet (need some welding done and I want to do it all at the same time).
I changed ALL the leaf springs, bolts and bushings before we started our road trip from Missouri up into the Canadian rockies (Jasper NP) and back (about 6,000 miles).
The old bushings were totally disintegrated. I don't remember how many miles were on them.
I'm interested in seeing how the bushings look I put in last spring (6,000 miles).
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Daryl and Marianne,
2019 3130re 20th Anniversary Edition
2016 F350 Lariat
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04-22-2024, 10:16 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Colorado Rockies
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M.O.C. #19755
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Is it difficult to get the old bushings out?
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Scott & Alta
2017 Montana 3160RL Legacy
2022 F-450 Lariat Ultimate
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04-23-2024, 05:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Western NY
Posts: 564
M.O.C. #28430
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No, they easily drive out if they are whole, mine came out even easier because they were cracked and broken. I installed x-factors 2 years ago and saved one of the original shorter wet bolts (install of x-factors require longer wet bolts) that I used to drive out the the old bushings and drive in the new ones. Two of them just fell out because they were in so many small pieces. I was just a little surprised by how beat up and worn out the bushings were. Thankfully I caught it in time and the spring eyes are still in good shape. I don’t consider 15k miles a lot. I guess I need to adjust my thinking. LOL. Another pro for Independant Suspension if I’m going to put some miles on I guess.
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Mark & Karen
2021 3121rl - slide toppers, cottage white, X-Factors, disc brakes, 300ah of Lithium, DC/DC charging, Gen-Y pinbox. 2021 F-350, 6.7L, SRW CC LB - B&W Companion
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04-23-2024, 06:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mountain Home
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M.O.C. #20949
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10K miles? not for mine... I have 45K miles ( 11th year of use ).. original bronze bushings, wet bolts and links... there is no movement and no slop.. I grease my suspension before every trip.... Dexter 7K axle, suspension and EQ Flex center link
** And yes I have pull a couple of wet bolts out to take a look see at the links, bolt holes and bushings
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04-23-2024, 09:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
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M.O.C. #30417
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10K miles shocks me. I would have guessed 40K to 50K. The Lippert equalizer bushings look brand new. I wonder if that's their never fail bushing? The Dexter bushing is toast. I wonder if the bushings are interchangeable? Now I'm concerned...
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Tony & Donna & the best dog ever, Murphy.
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, 720 watts Solar, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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04-23-2024, 10:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Western NY
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M.O.C. #28430
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Never fail bushings are plastic or some similar material. They don’t hold up well at all. Had them on a landscape trailer
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Mark & Karen
2021 3121rl - slide toppers, cottage white, X-Factors, disc brakes, 300ah of Lithium, DC/DC charging, Gen-Y pinbox. 2021 F-350, 6.7L, SRW CC LB - B&W Companion
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04-23-2024, 12:00 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Colorado Rockies
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M.O.C. #19755
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My rig has 25k miles on it since all the springs and hangers were replaced with bigger ones. I guess the only way to know is remove the wheels, pull the wet bolts and look at them; what a pain. If I go in that deep, I'll replace them.
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Scott & Alta
2017 Montana 3160RL Legacy
2022 F-450 Lariat Ultimate
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04-28-2024, 05:22 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,334
M.O.C. #17894
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I tried everything to keep the original suspension working properly. New bushings new wet bolts greased it every time I used it.
Even replace the entire shooting match Springs u-bolts shackles Etc. Still had problems with destroyed bushings missing wet bolts broken wet bolts.
Finally had enough took it to more ride ripped off the horse and buggy suspension and put on their independent suspension.
Night and day difference no more having to worry about anything suspension related
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04-29-2024, 11:15 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Olmsted Falls
Posts: 248
M.O.C. #20364
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We have a 2024 3231CK that we replaced the suspension with IS from MORryde. If anyone is interested to purchase, you can PM me for the 4 springs, shackles and hardware MORryde gave me. I was planning to bring them to the rally in Sep. They have about 50 miles on them from dealer to MORryde.
[IMG]file:///C:/Users/Dragon%202016/Desktop/part%201.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]file:///C:/Users/Dragon%202016/Desktop/part%202.jpg[/IMG]
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RMC(SW) USN Ret.; AT&T Ret.
2024 3231CK, IS, 400W Solar, Slide covers, Predator Gen,, 2016 Chevy High Country 3500 Diesel Dually with Timbren SES
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04-29-2024, 12:07 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Olmsted Falls
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M.O.C. #20364
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springs and shackles
adding photos
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Rick & Joyce Jones
RMC(SW) USN Ret.; AT&T Ret.
2024 3231CK, IS, 400W Solar, Slide covers, Predator Gen,, 2016 Chevy High Country 3500 Diesel Dually with Timbren SES
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04-29-2024, 05:43 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
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M.O.C. #30417
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Crap if you were closer....
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Tony & Donna & the best dog ever, Murphy.
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, 720 watts Solar, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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04-29-2024, 07:42 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Chattanooga
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M.O.C. #20906
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foldbak
Crap if you were closer....
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Following.
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2017 XLT 350 SCLB DRW 4X4
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04-29-2024, 07:56 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Lebanon
Posts: 30
M.O.C. #23462
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Our3231CK
We have a 2024 3231CK that we replaced the suspension with IS from MORryde. If anyone is interested to purchase, you can PM me for the 4 springs, shackles and hardware MORryde gave me. I was planning to bring them to the rally in Sep. They have about 50 miles on them from dealer to MORryde.
[IMG]file:///C:/Users/Dragon%202016/Desktop/part%201.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]file:///C:/Users/Dragon%202016/Desktop/part%202.jpg[/IMG]
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I would be interested in your old suspension parts. But I have no idea how to PM. Could you please contact me?
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04-29-2024, 08:01 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Lebanon
Posts: 30
M.O.C. #23462
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I would be interested in your old suspension if North Olmsted is in northern Ohio. I have no idea how to PM you. Could you please contact me?
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04-29-2024, 08:55 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
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M.O.C. #4831
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ToolMan
....I have no idea how to PM you....
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PM is a Private Message. Click on the member's name Our3231CK and then Click on "Send Message" just below the cute picture of the dogs on the couch. Then select "Send a Private Message..." and away you go
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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