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10-31-2021, 06:07 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: pleasant valley
Posts: 85
M.O.C. #18743
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Laws against RV on property
We are selling our 3931fb Montana and the person want to live in it on his property until he builds his house. He is putting down a foundation for it and hooking it up to his water and septic system. The building inspector said no trailers are allowed to be lived in for more than 30 days. The property is 20 acres.
Please discuss , is there a way around this?
It is 4 seasons , fully insulated.
What if he takes the tires off?
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10-31-2021, 06:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: POINTBLANK
Posts: 1,895
M.O.C. #19944
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Good luck, friends bought property in Colorado and were told the same thing. Nor can anyone live in it after the house is built
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10-31-2021, 06:58 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Livermore
Posts: 5,160
M.O.C. #1920
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We live in the mountains of Colorado. Larimer county allows six month occupancy in an RV unless you have a building permit. Then it’s a year. Our neighbor does not have a building permit and has been living in their RV for over 3 years. Tell them to just do it. They haven’t be able to do anything to my neighbor.
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Ron and Terrie Ames - MOC #1920/KF0NTA
2021Montana 3230CK Super Solar Legacy Package
2021 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn, BIM Charging
4x4, SRW, LB, Crew Cab, Pullrite 3900 Hitch
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10-31-2021, 07:04 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
Posts: 4,261
M.O.C. #3085
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I'm thinking if the inspector was already approached about this and his info for the particular area is correct ... he might just drop by someday to check on things depending on his mood.
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10-31-2021, 07:18 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,665
M.O.C. #9969
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Most of those are Local Ordinances or County Zoning that prohibit living in an RV, even if it's your own property. Which I don't agree with, if you're in a Village or City I can understand, but if you're in the country and you own a few acres I don't see the problem.
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Michelle & Ann
2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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10-31-2021, 07:41 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,221
M.O.C. #6433
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Live in it until the inspector shows up, if and when that occurs, then move it to an RV park for one month. Then move back for another 3 month + term.
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Bill & Patricia
Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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10-31-2021, 07:45 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Livermore
Posts: 5,160
M.O.C. #1920
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Good, I’ll sell you my property and you can have the RV next to you. Rocks piled on the roof to keep it on, the 1000 gallon above ground septic tank, the wood stove without a spark arrestor, the outdoor trash storage (only a matter of time before a bear gets put down for breaking into houses for trash), the pig, the muddy hole they dug and the fact he has driven his back hoe across my septic. I agree, there shouldn’t be rules if you own property in a mountain subdivision. In case you haven’t guessed, this is a sore subject. This happened after the 2012 High Park Fire. Property values dipped and in amongst nice homes came the non rule followers.
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2021Montana 3230CK Super Solar Legacy Package
2021 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn, BIM Charging
4x4, SRW, LB, Crew Cab, Pullrite 3900 Hitch
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11-01-2021, 05:48 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Anderson
Posts: 2,650
M.O.C. #22835
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Our property is zoned residential, but surrounded by agriculture on all sides. It is also zoned single family, and multiple "living" structures cannot be installed. There are no restrictions for parking RV's on the property, or using them.
In order to be completely compliant, we have never hooked up our camper "permanently" (actually we travel too much to do so). But we basically live in the camper, been doing so for 12 years now, in the driveway.
What we did though, was install an actual RV electric hook up. We started with 2, yes 2 - 30 amp boxes at different locations, and when we got the fifth wheel replaced one with a 20-30-50 amp RV box. We keep ours plugged in 24x7 with the camper electric cord, and also keep the Progressive EMS plugged in at the power box. In other words, there is no electricity wired "permanently" directly into the camper.
Second, we fill our fresh water tank ... always and NEVER leave the garden hose attached to the trailer. Why? 1) The garden hose is stretched across the yard and the driveway and that's in the way when mowing grass or using the drive way. 2) I never take chances on water hose leaks if we are not home. With no water actually attached permanently to the trailer, the trailer cannot be considered a permanent dwelling. (temporary, maybe, but not permanent)
Third, we have not tapped into our septic tank with a separate dedicated sewer connection. We did have the septic tank top undug and replaced the buried cap with an extension that comes up and completely out of the ground with an easy to remove cap so septic tank pumper services can access the tank without having to dig any more.
We use our portable blue tote to dump our camper black and grey water and then haul it to the septic tank cap and let gravity empty the tank. I built a ramp so the tote sits higher than the top of the opening so it drains easily.
That is the work around. Do not attach anything permanent to anything on the property. Garden hose for water, and keep it unattached except for filling the fresh water tank. Hook up your electricity exactly like you do at a campground, nothing permanent. Do not hook up anything permanent to the septic tank. Keep it all portable, keep the tires on the camper and keep the tires on the ground. Then the owners can probably stay in it as long as they want and no one will ever complain.
It's all about appearances and how one presents the argument.
Dumping the tote every couple days takes a little time and effort, and it takes times to do so, and to fill the fresh water tank, and constantly be aware of water usage because of the tank sizes. But the alternative is to live in a motel for 6 months!
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11-01-2021, 06:49 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SWFL
Posts: 964
M.O.C. #17801
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Different jurisdictions have different rules, even some places way out in the sticks and on large land tracts. Anyone who ignores the rules does so at their own risk.
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2005 Ford F350, 6.0 diesel, short bed
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11-01-2021, 06:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
Posts: 2,017
M.O.C. #21963
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I would build an RV garage and park it inside.
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11-07-2021, 01:24 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 67
M.O.C. #22453
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hitdrd
We are selling our 3931fb Montana and the person want to live in it on his property until he builds his house. He is putting down a foundation for it and hooking it up to his water and septic system. The building inspector said no trailers are allowed to be lived in for more than 30 days. The property is 20 acres.
Please discuss , is there a way around this?
It is 4 seasons , fully insulated.
What if he takes the tires off?
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It all has to do with what the rules are. The guy should have checked in advance. There can city and/or county rules or regulations that prevent it. There can be deed and/or HOA restrictions. The way around it would have been to ask in advance. If there is an inspector involved, that means there was a permit or application filed that should have disclosed the purpose. If he left off the RV part, that's his problem
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Greg H.
San Antonio, TX
2019 3731 w/20K GooseBox, 2021 F350 Crew cab TD dually
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11-07-2021, 01:54 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Carnation
Posts: 41
M.O.C. #21668
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In the Seattle area campers and trailers are parked all over the city and there is nothing anyone can do anything about it.
It’s considered a domicile. Go figure.
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11-07-2021, 02:21 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Southoftheboarder :)
Posts: 111
M.O.C. #25725
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If he wants to buy your RIG let him. What he does with it next is not your problem or concern.
IF he is saying, ohhhh uhhhh gotta see what happens first BUT can you 'hold' it for us? Nope, I would wish him the very best and you are moving on.
JMO of course.
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11-07-2021, 02:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: STAYTON
Posts: 1,118
M.O.C. #18157
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The mistake that was made was asking.
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11-07-2021, 04:13 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Franktown
Posts: 25
M.O.C. #29489
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MARK A
The mistake that was made was asking.
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It’s always easer to beg forgiveness.
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Daryl and Debbie
Colorado
2021 3855BR Legacy
2019 F350 SRW
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11-07-2021, 04:41 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: STAYTON
Posts: 1,118
M.O.C. #18157
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Exactly
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11-07-2021, 05:17 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: WIchita
Posts: 2
M.O.C. #23465
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Living in RV
I also wanted to live in my 5er. Here in Kansas they say a RV is not considered a home, so it can't be done. HOWEVER if you take the wheels off and install over the top straps, it is considered a "mobile home". Then it's ok and you could / can get insurance for it. Kind of strange if you own the property and are in a rural area. Some property owners build a metal building big enough to pull the RV into with sliding sides and full hook ups. Of course these are in rural areas.
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11-07-2021, 08:04 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: So Cal
Posts: 62
M.O.C. #27454
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That's the best idea yet! Covered, secured storage too! Have all connections out back so they are not visible from the front of the property!
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Louie n Debi
2021 3121 RL Legacy package with onboard generator.
Pulled neatly by a 2019 Chevy 3500 HD DRW
B&W 20k companion hitch
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11-08-2021, 05:20 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,788
M.O.C. #14547
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I would have just done it in the beginning and pleaded idiocy when (IF) someone showed up with a complaint. A friend is building a retirement home on a fancy off shore New England island and has a very small TT parked on the property. Nary a problem as late as yesterday - but then it's a 19' long no slide TT. not a 5 slide. 41 footer 5fh wheel.
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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11-08-2021, 07:12 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Sun City
Posts: 408
M.O.C. #23256
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Lots of rules about it, depending on where you live. Some places say two weeks, others 30 days. I disagree that it’s better to ask forgiveness than permission. If they Choose to enforce their ordinance or HOA CC&R it can get expensive pretty quickly.
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