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05-11-2022, 05:16 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Columbia
Posts: 303
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I live in MD, and this summer we are traveling to the midwest and the UP of Michgian. I ordered a titan tank so I can avoid buying diesel in PA and have some longer range with 67 gallons. I have a TSD Fuel Card and current prices look like they are between 4.80 and 5.25 a gallon. Is it great, not really, but you only live once and I can't take money with me to the grave. Looks like I will spend about 1600 in diesel this summer. Its ok, Im making memories with my kids and my wife.
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05-11-2022, 08:40 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mesa az
Posts: 2,971
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Originally Posted by mlh
I don’t see anything our governments can do about the price of fuel with the world prices of crude at over $100 per barrel.
Lynwood
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Something is wrong. Gas here has gone up maybe 30 cents in 4-6 months while diesel went up 60-80 cents.
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05-11-2022, 09:17 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Ellisville
Posts: 49
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It is my opinion that diesel fuel prices have become uncoupled from the normal relationship with gasoline. Not sure why. The price of everything you buy at a store is based in part on the cost of getting it there. No electric options here, diesel is the only way.
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05-11-2022, 09:47 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Medford
Posts: 498
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Here is a really good analysis of why diesel prices have outpaced gasoline.
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/di...-stay-that-way
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2020 Chevrolet Silverado 3500 HD LT CC 4x4 Duramax
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05-12-2022, 05:48 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,788
M.O.C. #14547
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Supposedly NY State as well as my home county will be suspending taxes on gas and diesel. So far it hasn't shown at the pump. My truck is currently running on 2 month old $4.89/gallon stuff but it will need a fill this weekend. The local AVERAGE price is $6.46/gallon. I'll wait a couple days but don't expect much real down price movement with price gouging. It is interesting that the traffic doesn't seem to have slowed and actually seems heavier then in the past.
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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05-12-2022, 06:33 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,571
M.O.C. #2283
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave W
Supposedly NY State as well as my home county will be suspending taxes on gas and diesel. So far it hasn't shown at the pump. My truck is currently running on 2 month old $4.89/gallon stuff but it will need a fill this weekend. The local AVERAGE price is $6.46/gallon. I'll wait a couple days but don't expect much real down price movement with price gouging. It is interesting that the traffic doesn't seem to have slowed and actually seems heavier then in the past.
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Dave how much of the $6.46 is tax?
Lynwood
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05-12-2022, 06:43 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Medford
Posts: 498
M.O.C. #18546
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05-12-2022, 06:54 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Medford
Posts: 498
M.O.C. #18546
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Here is the Fuel tax by state this year. Federal tax is added to these numbers:
https://igentax.com/gas-tax-state/
Spoiler: Pennsylvania is the highest at $0.741 cents per gallon plus $0.244 federal tax.
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05-12-2022, 07:15 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2018
Location: livingston,tx
Posts: 559
M.O.C. #21685
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We cancelled a year of trip plans up north due to fuel cost 'diesel', currently in Durant OK. Diesel is $5.29.9, we are easing our way to Florida to stay put for a year, reservation already made, and start looking for a permanent home base.
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05-12-2022, 09:01 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,788
M.O.C. #14547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlh
Dave how much of the $6.46 is tax?
Lynwood
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Lynwood - State taxes are 25 cents/gallon on gas and 23/gallon on diesel. You also need to add local sales tax which Upstate is 7 to 9 percent/dollar or on 6 buck diesel is another 42/54 cents per gallon. It ain't cheap here in the Vampire State
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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05-12-2022, 09:07 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,571
M.O.C. #2283
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Dave what I was trying to get at was why is your fuel so much higher than ours. Your taxes are about the same as in Virginia so why does your fuel cost so much more?
Lynwood
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05-12-2022, 09:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,664
M.O.C. #9969
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It's simple, the rest of the State has to support NYC. Many NYC residents don't even own a car, but big time mass transit. Those of us in the sticks have no mass transit, but we support have to the system in NYC.
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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05-12-2022, 10:05 AM
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#33
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,788
M.O.C. #14547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlh
Dave what I was trying to get at was why is your fuel so much higher than ours. Your taxes are about the same as in Virginia so why does your fuel cost so much more?
Lynwood
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Greed, graft, and price gouging from everyone
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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05-12-2022, 10:19 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,571
M.O.C. #2283
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Most businesses charge what they can get not what a product should cost. I guess I’ve always did it wrong. I charge what it cost to make a product plus a fair profit.
Lynwood
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05-12-2022, 10:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,788
M.O.C. #14547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mhs4771
It's simple, the rest of the State has to support NYC. Many NYC residents don't even own a car, but big time mass transit. Those of us in the sticks have no mass transit, but we support have to the system in NYC.
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Now you are getting into a subject that winds me up. I wont mention the Buffalo Bills new stadium that I'll never see or many other useless projects while our highways, to only mention one thing, turn to rutted dirt paths
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2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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05-12-2022, 10:36 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,428
M.O.C. #4831
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The OP asked a question about 'well what else are you planning to do except park it?" in regards to the current fuel prices. Please try to stick with answering that question and lets not deviate into political or unrelated discussions. Several posts have been removed already for violation the MOC Community Rules. Don't be the one that forces closure of the discussion.
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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05-12-2022, 06:21 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Gardnerville
Posts: 1,258
M.O.C. #17163
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlh
I don’t see anything our governments can do about the price of fuel with the world prices of crude at over $100 per barrel.
Lynwood
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America is part of the world's oil supply. We were an oil exporter. When America no longer exports oil to other parts of the planet, yes there will be an impact. The way to bring down the oil prices is that we produce more here.
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05-12-2022, 06:23 PM
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#38
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Gardnerville
Posts: 1,258
M.O.C. #17163
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rvman
It is my opinion that diesel fuel prices have become uncoupled from the normal relationship with gasoline. Not sure why. The price of everything you buy at a store is based in part on the cost of getting it there. No electric options here, diesel is the only way.
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Jet fuel is a derivative of diesel.. Trains, Trucks, fishing fleets use diesel.
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05-12-2022, 06:39 PM
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#39
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,571
M.O.C. #2283
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfb
America is part of the world's oil supply. We were an oil exporter. When America no longer exports oil to other parts of the planet, yes there will be an impact. The way to bring down the oil prices is that we produce more here.
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I learned something a short time ago. Oil refineries can only refine one type of oil. Heavy oil can’t be refined in a light crude refinery. So I wonder can we refine the oil we export. If we can’t why don’t we built more refineries, cost, environmental problems, not in my back yard.
We have a natural gas pipeline being built a couple miles from our home. The cost has gone from 3.5 B to 6.6 B and is sure to climb higher and still may never be completed. So why would anyone ever build a refinery. You wouldn’t haft to have rocks in your head but it would help.
Lynwood
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05-12-2022, 08:59 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Alton
Posts: 2,735
M.O.C. #24086
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Well, we had a pandemic. Everyone told to work from home. People decided to buy RVs and work from anywhere. RV prices went through the roof.
RV parks sites got scarce. Need to book them way in advance.
Most of these new RV need diesel. Greatly Increase demand....
The other side of the equation is our guberment printing too much money devaluing it.
Hence inflation....
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