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10-15-2022, 12:42 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Ashland
Posts: 64
M.O.C. #30303
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Tried and Confused
I admit I have washed the 2021 rig multiple times in the last year with high quality ph balanced soap, but I have not wax or treated it at all. I’ve read all the stuff on this wonderful forum about what to do and I feel I’d like I need to do a ceramic or Teflon coating or something that will last a year or maybe two?? I’m retired and lazy. My son is a part time detail guy and he is going to be there to help, and he suggests Teflon but I can find much out there that says that’s the right way to go. When we bought we didn’t even think about full body paint and how that would have maybe given more flexibility, but it would seem like our rig with just gel coat is similar to a boat treatment? I know opinions vary and this subject has been beat to death but I would appreciate any real life experiences using more permanent coatings on gel coat rigs. And is a marine product a good way to go. I am brand new to this much care to a 40’ rig and it seems overwhelming. But I don’t want to screw it up. Oh, also unfortunately we have to keep her outside and exposed 365.
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10-15-2022, 12:48 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Bencia
Posts: 538
M.O.C. #25828
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Had our new 2020 Montana fifth wheel ceramic coated by a detail shop. It also outside all year round.
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2020 Montana 3780RL fifth wheel
2016 F-350 6.7L Diesel Crew Cab Long Bed DRW
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10-15-2022, 01:03 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Ashland
Posts: 64
M.O.C. #30303
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Don’t mean to be nosey but what is the ball park estimated range for this?
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10-15-2022, 01:12 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Northeast TX
Posts: 944
M.O.C. #30262
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree Top Turkeys
Don’t mean to be nosey but what is the ball park estimated range for this?
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Oh I AM nosy - and have my heart pills at the ready.....
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Lee, Edith, Lil' Bit & Cuddles
22 MHC 331RL, Surge Guard 35550, SumoSprings, Kodiak disc brakes, 412Ah Lithium, Gen 3 Goosebox, Sailun 85s
22 Ram 3500 CC DRW 6.7 CTD Herrin Hauler Classic Bed, 45 gal AUX tank
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10-15-2022, 01:28 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Bencia
Posts: 538
M.O.C. #25828
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~$2000 in Jan 2020.
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2020 Montana 3780RL fifth wheel
2016 F-350 6.7L Diesel Crew Cab Long Bed DRW
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10-15-2022, 01:43 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Ashland
Posts: 64
M.O.C. #30303
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Actually for what I’ve heard people pay for auto’s that seems pretty dang fair
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10-15-2022, 04:34 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Milwaukie, OR
Posts: 1,471
M.O.C. #23668
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I like the Turtle Wax spray on ceramic wax. Easy to apply and provides a nice finish. I can do mine in a couple afternoons if I just take my time. Needs a ladder for sure but isn't that hard to do.
DIY for <$30
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Jeff & Sandi (and Teddy - 7lb Schnorkie)
2018 Montana HC 305RL / HW Progressive EMS
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie Longhorn Crew Cab 4x4 DRW / Demco Recon Hitch on RAM Puck Ball
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10-16-2022, 10:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
Posts: 2,249
M.O.C. #30417
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I'm with Jeff....2K is too steep for me. I'm thinking about trying F11. DIY of course.
https://topcoatproducts.com/?gc_id=1...SAAEgLK5PD_BwE
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Tony & Donna
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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10-16-2022, 10:26 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Coloma, Wisconsin
Posts: 202
M.O.C. #28036
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I also use a ceramic spray on and wipe off. Do small sections at a time. Product is not cheap but seriously works well. Bug removal from front cap is close to effortless compared to previous waxes. All my buddies used ceramic on their boats for years and told me I would be happier. They were correct but it does take some time, good amount of product and effort to complete the whole trailer
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2019 3121RL 35 ft., 2020 3500 Dodge Ram SRW, Cummins 6.7 HO, Air Bags - Air Lift BT Wireless Compressor, Coloma, Wisconsin
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10-16-2022, 10:33 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Ashland
Posts: 64
M.O.C. #30303
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I agree. I think ceramic is for me. I looked at F-11 and it seems to be a very good system and process. I worry because I see some weird very small horizontal lines on one section midway back. And also several discolored areas that are concerning. Maybe the cleaning / degreasing process will remove these issues??
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10-16-2022, 12:36 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Western NY
Posts: 494
M.O.C. #28430
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I think that they are a lot like a boat also. We are boat owners and have been all our lives. We have owned rv’s for about 20 of those years, and we treat the surfaces the same. The ceramic coatings are nice but roi is subject to personal opinion and a personal decision.
We wash and wax with conventional marine grade products. I don’t know if they are the best choice, but I’m happy with the results.
The boat was waxed in April and put away for the winter a few weeks ago. Still shines and repels contaminants. Been waxed with Meguires for 18 years.
Monty gets the same wax. It’s work, but I’m retired and I have the time and thankful I can still do them even if it takes me a few days to do it.
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Mark & Karen
2021 3121rl - slide toppers, cottage white, TST 507 TPMS, X-Factors, disc brakes
2021 F-350, 6.7L, SRW CC LB - B&W Companion, Bakflip cover
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10-16-2022, 12:53 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Coloma, Wisconsin
Posts: 202
M.O.C. #28036
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Mandk,
Good thing you got a nice small boat to tow behind that nice Monty... LOL
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Chuck
2019 3121RL 35 ft., 2020 3500 Dodge Ram SRW, Cummins 6.7 HO, Air Bags - Air Lift BT Wireless Compressor, Coloma, Wisconsin
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10-16-2022, 01:05 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
Posts: 4,261
M.O.C. #3085
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Ahhhh the power of advertising and the power of a catch word. The "ceramic" craze reminds me of the ole Forest Gump scene with Bubba describing all the shrimp options.
There's barbecued ceramic, boiled ceramic, baked ceramic, pan fried ceramic, deep fried ceramic, pineapple ceramic, sautéed ceramic, ceramic soup, ceramic stew ... Remember when "Nu Finish" was the craze ... once a year application for year-round protection ... no rubbing .... no polishing ... just sit the bottle next to your car and "SHAZAM" it's on there protecting.
And ... yes I've tried "ceramic", you can hardly help not trying it.
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10-16-2022, 01:17 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Western NY
Posts: 494
M.O.C. #28430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wisconsin Retiree
Mandk,
Good thing you got a nice small boat to tow behind that nice Monty... ���� LOL
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Maybe we could put some pontoons on Monty, make it a montoona and pull it behind the boat for guests. It’s smaller than the boat, lol.
We love the 2 life styles but are going to have to pick one or the other soon. As age creeps up on us and it starts to become a chore, one will have to go.
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Mark & Karen
2021 3121rl - slide toppers, cottage white, TST 507 TPMS, X-Factors, disc brakes
2021 F-350, 6.7L, SRW CC LB - B&W Companion, Bakflip cover
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10-17-2022, 01:19 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Cumming
Posts: 84
M.O.C. #27901
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jsb5717
I like the Turtle Wax spray on ceramic wax. Easy to apply and provides a nice finish. I can do mine in a couple afternoons if I just take my time. Needs a ladder for sure but isn't that hard to do.
DIY for <$30
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Have you noticed any effect on the decals using the Turtle Wax ceramic wax?
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2020 Ram 3500 CC, SWB, 4WD with Curt Q20 hitch 2021 High Country 331RL
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10-17-2022, 02:04 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Milwaukie, OR
Posts: 1,471
M.O.C. #23668
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Brown
Have you noticed any effect on the decals using the Turtle Wax ceramic wax?
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So far nothing seems amiss. Just a couple seasons of using it. It all looks good and decals look healthy.
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Jeff & Sandi (and Teddy - 7lb Schnorkie)
2018 Montana HC 305RL / HW Progressive EMS
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie Longhorn Crew Cab 4x4 DRW / Demco Recon Hitch on RAM Puck Ball
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10-18-2022, 04:15 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Hilliards
Posts: 237
M.O.C. #25636
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I keep the F11 on our rig, definitely once a year, sometimes twice.
Bugs come off easier, and most of the time, a good strong rinse cleans the surface without a wash mitt or soft brush.
Of course, this is all personal preference, whatever works for one, may not meet another's expectations.
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2020 MHC 330RL
2021 F350 DRW 6.7 Powerstroke
Retired and Rollin'!
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10-18-2022, 05:01 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 2,145
M.O.C. #25165
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McGuire's is a great wax. I've used it for years, but lately I've been considering using the Griot's Garage 3 in 1 Ceramic Spray Wax. It has really good reviews and I contacted them to see if it is safe for the gel coat and decals. They said that matte finish decals may get a gloss look, but that it is perfectly safe, and with 2 coats applied, should be good for a year.
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Robert & Diana McNeal
2019 Montana Legacy 3791RD 20th Anniversary Edition
2014 F350 4x4 6.7L SRW
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10-18-2022, 06:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2018
Location: livingston,tx
Posts: 558
M.O.C. #21685
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Old school, wash and wax has worked well for us in the past 5 years.
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