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12-09-2021, 03:26 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
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M.O.C. #19944
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Slide Cable Adjustment
And on goes the saga of the slide. Just a quick catch up: 2020-373RD, main big slide - took it in for warranty work for material being torn up. Dealership installed metal strips under the slide per mfg. Brought it home, header fell off ... dealer seems not to learn from the past (head same header issue on 305). Header damaged flooring ... another long story.
Slide started tearing up more material. Back again, more metal slides and adds three rollers inside the wear strip. All is well, for a while but then ... when starting to retract the slide the motor pulled down and a loud pop with slide jumping in a couple in a couple of inches. Showed this to a tech at the Rally, he almost jumped out of the coach. Short story, new motor/gear box installed (high torque) and cables adjusted. Not perfect but seemingly better, just squeeked a lot. Was told not to lube it.
So several days later, slide was coming in and gets in a bind. stop moving it, get the ladder out, one side the block at the end of the chain has twisted on both the in & out hitting each other. Make some adjustment and make it home. Put the slide out and DW notices the bottom right corner is not full extended and loop of cable is showing under the slide. Get the ladder - one cable (the out bottom cable) has unscrewed itself. Reinstalled nut and adjusted the best of my ability.
Go to bring in the slide to go camping, motor bogs down ... one of the new metal plates has a 1/2" bend and is pushing in slide bar in over top one of the new rollers. After some work, got the metal flattened (mostly) and push the slide strip down and closed the slide.
Got it to the dealer and get the call slide is fixed and working on other items. Despite, the note to CALL ME when Keystone came up with a fix. After expressing dismay, told them I'd see them in the morning. After arriving, they show the recommended fix, shorter plate. I show the how the slide strip is pulled up from the floor and how the slide is so far back in the slide hole it is rubbing hard. Bottom cables, the front is not tight, can be pushed down 2-3" and the rear is tight enough to make a low note when plucked. When told the slide needs to be moved forward and cable properly adjusted the response is, "There is NO ADJUSTMENT to move slide forward."
I agree with that but feel if cables are MIS-ADJUSTED it will pull the slide forward or back.
Does anyone know of the MASTER SLIDE/CABLE WIZARD that could give some direction on proper cable adjustment? I would love to talk to them.
Would appreciate thoughts on the whole process.
And by the way, don't misplace the little foam blocks on the cable nuts - these are to prevent the nuts from backing off.
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RAM 22' DRW 3500 Crew LB 40 gal reserve tank / RETRAX Bed Cover / 2020 373RD HC / IS / MOPEKA Tank Monitor / Furrion Side&Rear Cameras
Slide Toppers / EMS-HW50C / Sailun 85's
3rd AC / Dometic 320
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12-09-2021, 05:27 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Northern Illinois
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M.O.C. #19994
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this video helped me on my wardrobe slide, the only one out of 6 that has cable, thanks keystone, anyway, this really has some good info on replacing and adjusting
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12-10-2021, 09:19 AM
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Montana Master
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Nice video package, thx. What I see is if it close to normal ... I'm kinda out of that relm. We'll see if the dealer gets it ironed out. Maybe third time is a charm.
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RAM 22' DRW 3500 Crew LB 40 gal reserve tank / RETRAX Bed Cover / 2020 373RD HC / IS / MOPEKA Tank Monitor / Furrion Side&Rear Cameras
Slide Toppers / EMS-HW50C / Sailun 85's
3rd AC / Dometic 320
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12-10-2021, 10:48 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mesa az
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Boy, I am glad I bought my Mountaineer and not a High Country. Keystone kept both around for about 2 years I think in 2013/14 or so. I have the hydraulic slides. I have 60000 miles, 7 years with about 35 layovers a year, so that is about 250 setups and takedowns. I had 2 bad cylinders within 2 months on the way to the Rally in goshen. Lippert got me in on the day we left (at 7 am) and were done by noon. Had a few more creep outs on the way home, but dealer just ran the slides in and out 10 times and no more problems.
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2013 Mountaineer 362
2012 Silverado 2500
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12-10-2021, 12:40 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
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M.O.C. #2283
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If you watch this site you will find there is trouble with the cable slides and hydraulic slides. My HC is a 2011 with no trouble. If the cables and brackets are probably adjusted you should never have a problem. The gear boxes can go bad and some leak oil. You can replace a gear box or a cable much quicker than almost any park on a hydraulic slide. I’ll stick with the cables.
Lynwood
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12-10-2021, 07:02 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
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M.O.C. #5651
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlh
If you watch this site you will find there is trouble with the cable slides and hydraulic slides. My HC is a 2011 with no trouble. If the cables and brackets are probably adjusted you should never have a problem. The gear boxes can go bad and some leak oil. You can replace a gear box or a cable much quicker than almost any park on a hydraulic slide. I’ll stick with the cables.
Lynwood
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Yes it appears to be something you can do yourself. However, I have heard probably 10 problems with cable slides for every 1 with a hydraulic. Actually maybe more like 20-1.
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12-11-2021, 05:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
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M.O.C. #14547
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The only slide of 4 on ours that I have had a problem with is the 13 foot LR - and that is because the slide bar appears to have collapsed and allows it to droop. So far, with a little lube along with some adjustment , have gotten it to work kinda OK I have six Lippert J-1 rollers to be installed as soon as I get a bit of weather break from the 30 degree days.
Adjusting the cables is pretty easy - 3 tools, understand the BAL instruction booklet and an hour of your time is all you need. (tools 3/8", 7/16" {Gear Wrench type work best} and a pair of Vise Grips_
My opinion, FWIW, is that any slide over about 6 or so feet is too heavy, as well as to flexible (floppy?) for that cable system
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