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01-19-2022, 10:58 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Topeka
Posts: 95
M.O.C. #22922
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Dealer changes price on delivery
We have not given the dealer a deposit yet. We are trying to order a new RV and the dealer says that even though we will sign a contract for a specific price, the manufacture may raise the price 2-5 percent upon delivery. Is this something new? Is it legal? If I refuse to pay the difference and back out of the purchase the dealer won't return my $$ deposit. It sounds pretty sketchy to me! Any help?
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Steve & Ginger Patterson
2018 Montana 3811 MS
2018 GMC Denali 3500 HD Duramax
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01-19-2022, 11:03 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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$15,000 deposit?! You can't see them but my eyebrows are RAISED! Over the years I bought 2 Montanas off the lot and ordered 1 more and the dealer never asked for a penny deposit. I would shop with others if it were me.
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2018.5 Montana 3791RD
Full Timers 9/1/2010 through 1/16/2020.
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01-19-2022, 11:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 525
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I agree with WBF and would shop elsewhere, I have bought 4 fifth wheels over the past 20 years, never had to pay a down payment or sign a contract. If they change the price on you, walk away
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The "Black Pearl"-2017 3731FL Legacy Package
2017 F-450 Platinum, 6.7 PSD
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01-19-2022, 12:49 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Oro Valley
Posts: 3,932
M.O.C. #20477
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Steve,
Dealers are starting to build inventory. Find a different dealer that either has inventory to buy off the lot or willing write a firm contract to order.
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Zack and Donna plus Millie and Ranger
2018 3160RL
"Life is too short to stay indoors, enjoy the ride!"
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01-19-2022, 12:53 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,550
M.O.C. #2283
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Is it legal? Sure if you sign the contract.
Lynwood
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01-19-2022, 02:49 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Estacada
Posts: 77
M.O.C. #25265
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Don’t sign, and walk away!☮️✌🏻
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01-19-2022, 04:52 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Olmsted Falls
Posts: 215
M.O.C. #20364
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Run do not not walk to the nearest exit. Purchased many vehicles over the decades, never heard of the price increasing on delivery. Find another dealer, even if you have to travel, there are honest ones still in business.
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Rick & Joyce Jones
RMC(SW) USN Ret.; AT&T Ret.
2024 3231CK, IS, 400W Solar, Slide covers, Predator Gen,, 2016 Chevy High Country 3500 Diesel Dually
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01-19-2022, 05:04 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2020
Location: UPLAND
Posts: 1,256
M.O.C. #26190
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OMG, I would not do business with a place like that.
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2019 Keystone Montana 3560RL, 2020 Chevy 2500 HD, Firestone airbags, Air Lift wireless compressor, Curt gooseneck, 20K Reese Goosebox, TST-507, USMC combat vet & retired LEO. Robert, Anika, Breanna, Dylan (daughter-in-law Stephanie). & our Great Pyrenees Layla
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01-19-2022, 07:04 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,550
M.O.C. #2283
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I can see the dealers problem. He doesn’t know what the factory will charge him when the camper is delivered. The factory doesn’t know the price of all the parts that go into the camper until they take delivery of them. I know this is s extreme but suppose the price for the factory and the dealer went up 50%. Neither could hold the price and stay in business.
We are ordering steel for the shop. The factory says oh the price will be higher but we don’t know how much and we don’t know when it will be delivered maybe 44 weeks. That is the way everything is right now. And that is in almost everything. I would say make a deal with the dealer to cover the extra cost and if the price should come do you get that.
Lynwood
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01-19-2022, 07:24 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Roseville
Posts: 265
M.O.C. #25257
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlh
I can see the dealers problem. He doesn’t know what the factory will charge him when the camper is delivered. The factory doesn’t know the price of all the parts that go into the camper until they take delivery of them. I know this is s extreme but suppose the price for the factory and the dealer went up 50%. Neither could hold the price and stay in business.
We are ordering steel for the shop. The factory says oh the price will be higher but we don’t know how much and we don’t know when it will be delivered maybe 44 weeks. That is the way everything is right now. And that is in almost everything. I would say make a deal with the dealer to cover the extra cost and if the price should come do you get that.
Lynwood
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I just had this with a golf cart I purchased. The dealer had 1 in stock and we made a deal. I asked about waiting and order one in a different color. He said he had 10 on order and one was the color we preferred, but he could no guarantee a price because the manufacture would tell him the price when they shipped. It is happening with a lot of things in these new times.
I left with the one he had.
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Jim and Carole
Roseville, MN
2018 RAM 3500 DRW, Diesel, Long Box, Air Lift Bags - 2020 Montana HC 381TH, Sailun S637
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01-19-2022, 07:54 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,366
M.O.C. #4831
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Here is a link to a similar complaint last year. https://www.montanaowners.com/forums...ad.php?t=83950 There is a concern the OP was venting as they never responded to any questions or to the eventual conclusion.
Besides the comments, check the YouTube video prepared by Bish's RV about market challenges.
https://youtu.be/ZTt1LvKCDbk
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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01-19-2022, 08:46 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
Posts: 2,017
M.O.C. #21963
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Sounds like the dealer is asking you to sign a blank check. I've spent millions on raw materials and on the selling side, never sold expecting more than agreed. When pricing a finished good on repetitive items, the factory should be able to hedge their costs and charge accordingly.
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2016 3160, Legacy, Sailuns, Splendide 2100 xc vented, 1 1/2" axle lift blocks, disk brakes. 2014 Ram 3500 SRW SWB 4X4 6.7 Aisin Mega Cab, EBC slotted disks and brakes, Titan fuel tank.
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01-19-2022, 09:50 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: woodstock
Posts: 542
M.O.C. #8174
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Get another dealer
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Ed
Montana Master
Woodstock Ga
2020 3931 FB Legacy
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01-20-2022, 02:35 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 860
M.O.C. #8154
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When I first heard that the price of a new RV wasn't finalized until delivery, I too thought as many other posts, that this was an outrageous practice. I just listened to a long video from a dealer talking about Newmar's ending its price protection policy.
In essence, the pandemic and supply issues have changed everything. From the date of order to completion, it seems that the manufactures have no control over the increase costs of the materials as they are purchased and installed.
If your interested, check out .
It's long, perhaps boring but it will give an interesting perspective. Although the example of a high end motorhome is more severe than that of a 5th wheel, the point is the same.
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01-20-2022, 07:34 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Hagerstown
Posts: 866
M.O.C. #16013
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be patient
Quote:
Originally Posted by wed
Get another dealer
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You want what you want and spending this big of a pile of money you should get what you want. Don`t walk away if this dealer is convenient to you. Just write in the contract you have the right to void the contract if the price changes on delivery and receive a full refund of the deposit in 10 days. . $15,000, nah I`d agree to $5,000 but no more. Like others have said you can always find one on a lot if your willing to drive a little. I did ( 3 hours ) and it all worked out but if you want special options take the risk of having to wait again.
Rv dealers.........always something with them.
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2018.5 3791 Rear Den Montana, on the lake no 3rd A/C, Mini Split, just do it
Electric Brakes ..... Disk Brakes, it`s the only way
F350 Ford Dually 4:10`s w/bags (payload 5595 lbs) Sumo Springs 63 gal aux tank
Reese Goosebox Mor/Ryde SRE 4000 X Factors Monroe shocks.... real smooth ride
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01-20-2022, 08:39 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Between the ask on the deposit and the contract I would walk away. If they're needing that much deposit on a rig they could sell if you don't take it, I would be concerned about them being financially stable enough to still be in business when the rig ships.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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01-23-2022, 02:02 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Liberty Hill
Posts: 139
M.O.C. #26548
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I'd be gone, too many dealers out there that want the sale. This one sounds pretty flaky. The whole point of a contract is to seal the deal at the time.
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01-23-2022, 02:05 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Liberty Hill
Posts: 139
M.O.C. #26548
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlh
I can see the dealers problem. He doesn’t know what the factory will charge him when the camper is delivered. The factory doesn’t know the price of all the parts that go into the camper until they take delivery of them. I know this is s extreme but suppose the price for the factory and the dealer went up 50%. Neither could hold the price and stay in business.
We are ordering steel for the shop. The factory says oh the price will be higher but we don’t know how much and we don’t know when it will be delivered maybe 44 weeks. That is the way everything is right now. And that is in almost everything. I would say make a deal with the dealer to cover the extra cost and if the price should come do you get that.
Lynwood
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I might agree with you on this EXCEPT... if that's the case and it happens to increase in price, they should be willing to return the deposit.
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01-23-2022, 03:12 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Anchorage
Posts: 18
M.O.C. #29737
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Yeah lazy days told me the same thing, found a different dealer and price is as quoted when I pick it up, no increase. Just find a different dealer
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01-23-2022, 03:28 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: gretna
Posts: 20
M.O.C. #20108
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I would look for another dealer read any contract with a fine tooth comb
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