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Old 01-12-2022, 08:07 AM   #1
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Part number for baggage door hinge

Where can I get the part number for just the hinge of a baggage door. These are the waterproof hinges that from the end look like a C inside a C.
I need a web based approach as my phone only works in Canada.
The hinge is 46 3/8 long. It goes on the door side baggage door of a 2018 3811MS. Picture of the door half of the hinge attached. The other end is the bad part, this is what they look like when not damaged.
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I contacted Lippert, they say contact Keystone.
I contacted Keystone and they say they don't do parts, have Lippert contact them.
Does anyone know how to break the finger pointing?
Does anyone know how to get a part number for a baggage door hinge? It's a standard part used on 10's of thousands of RV's
NOTE, I can not phone the USA, must be web based.
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I'm thinking it's likely that the door manufacturer would buy this product in bulk "sticks" in lengths of 10' or so and cut it to the length(s) they need. Not likely that a part number exists. Maybe try to locate a used one at a RV graveyard and cut to length you need?
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I'm thinking it's likely that the door manufacturer would buy this product in bulk "sticks" in lengths of 10' or so and cut it to the length(s) they need. Not likely that a part number exists. Maybe try to locate a used one at a RV graveyard and cut to length you need?
No doubt true, but a part number gets me the correct size hinge. Never heard of or seen a graveyard for RV's. Unlikely one of those would have a match in any case, this is still a relatively new RV.
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dont know if this will help but maybe worth a try
https://www.lci1.com/access-and-baggage-doors
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Try "hurricane hinge" on ebay and see if that is what you need.
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Try "hurricane hinge" on ebay and see if that is what you need.
That is a great looking hinge, but it is not the same. It appears to be one more step above what Lippert uses.
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is there no way you can bend and straighten your hinge extrusion?
What if you drilled out the rivets and worked on it on your table.

Back in 2009 my tailgate fell down and crushed a baggage door on my then Alpenlite 5th wheel. Western RV had closed thier doors in 2008 - so there was no factory to go to. I found a company called Kinro (which I think is owned by LCI now). It was a nightmare getting doors of the correct size from them...and I mean a 6 month NIGHTMARE.

I am not sure there is a way to beat the system on your door with all the finger pointing. The more they point - the higher the price gets. It might be less brain damage to order the door and frame from Trekwood and just pay thier ransom.
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is there no way you can bend and straighten your hinge extrusion?
What if you drilled out the rivets and worked on it on your table.

Back in 2009 my tailgate fell down and crushed a baggage door on my then Alpenlite 5th wheel. Western RV had closed thier doors in 2008 - so there was no factory to go to. I found a company called Kinro (which I think is owned by LCI now). It was a nightmare getting doors of the correct size from them...and I mean a 6 month NIGHTMARE.

I am not sure there is a way to beat the system on your door with all the finger pointing. The more they point - the higher the price gets. It might be less brain damage to order the door and frame from Trekwood and just pay thier ransom.
I am going to try to fix it first. I purchased a 10mm/.375" steel rod 6 ft long to insert into the hollow part of the circular hinge. I will bend/hammer the hinge as I push on the steel rod. If that does not work, I will just cut off whatever parts will not mesh as I have at least 60% - 70% of the hinge meshing. As long as I baby the door it might work for years. I also plan to ask a few dealers around here to see if they can get a part but I will bet a significant amount they will not know what to do other than try to order an entire new door.
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dont know if this will help but maybe worth a try
https://www.lci1.com/access-and-baggage-doors
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Thanks, been to that site, no luck.
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I went to the dealer and got one off a damaged door.
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I went to the dealer and got one off a damaged door.
That is interesting, I will ask them. I only have one dealer on the Island and he is about 1.5 hrs away so I might take a trip down there.
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They a whole pile of them they had replaced.
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Try you dealer.

I had the same issue with my baggage door hinge on my 2021 Montana HC I was told to contact my dealer as they would have the part number. Unfortunately Keystone doesn’t sell just the hinge they rather sell you the whole door complete with frame as they tried to do with me at a cost of approximately $1000 US which includes packaging and shipping. I fixe the hinge the best I could as the door flips up and attaches to the magnets on the coach. I just added two gas strut’s and it supports the door and I’m fine with that.



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Where can I get the part number for just the hinge of a baggage door. These are the waterproof hinges that from the end look like a C inside a C.
I need a web based approach as my phone only works in Canada.
The hinge is 46 3/8 long. It goes on the door side baggage door of a 2018 3811MS. Picture of the door half of the hinge attached. The other end is the bad part, this is what they look like when not damaged.
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I had the same issue with my baggage door hinge on my 2021 Montana HC I was told to contact my dealer as they would have the part number. Unfortunately Keystone doesn’t sell just the hinge they rather sell you the whole door complete with frame as they tried to do with me at a cost of approximately $1000 US which includes packaging and shipping. I fixe the hinge the best I could as the door flips up and attaches to the magnets on the coach. I just added two gas strut’s and it supports the door and I’m fine with that.
Yep, well aware of the 'contact dealer' nonsense, but after a few attempts I did get the name of my door's manufacturer. Unfortunately I can probably only order the entire door. My hinge is so damaged that the only cure left is to remove it and replace with SS piano hinge. It was hard to find the right size (depth) but after a few attempts did locate one on Amazon. I will cut off the old hinge and grind it flush then rivet on the new piano hinge. Either it works or I am only out the cost of the hinges and will pay the big bucks for a new door. I also have gas struts on order as well.
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BCRVMan - did you contact Trekwood? I believe they are an offshoot of Tiara RV in Elkhart. It might be worth calling them or some of the surplus RV stores in Elkhart area. Just a thought. Or, call our dealer - Leach Camper in Council Bluffs, Iowa. They are great for service. We bought our last two Montana’s there. Good luck.
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BCRVMan - did you contact Trekwood? I believe they are an offshoot of Tiara RV in Elkhart. It might be worth calling them or some of the surplus RV stores in Elkhart area. Just a thought. Or, call our dealer - Leach Camper in Council Bluffs, Iowa. They are great for service. We bought our last two Montana’s there. Good luck.
I have sent emails to Trekwood at least 3 times in the last few days and no response.
I am Canadian and do not have US phone coverage so all contacts have to be by email.
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What was the door manf name?
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What was the door manf name?
Kinro but it looks identical to Lippert too.
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Where can I get the part number for just the hinge of a baggage door. These are the waterproof hinges that from the end look like a C inside a C.
I need a web based approach as my phone only works in Canada.
The hinge is 46 3/8 long. It goes on the door side baggage door of a 2018 3811MS. Picture of the door half of the hinge attached. The other end is the bad part, this is what they look like when not damaged.

Hello BCRVman - I am having the same problem in trying to find any information about the hinge of the outside kitchen hatch on our travel trailer. The photo you posted looks the same as the end of the insert part of my hinge - see my attached images :










So - were you ever able to determine the manufacturer of this type of hinge? What is the correct name for this thing ? I read "hurricane" hinge, "belt rail" hinge, "piano" hinge, and other, less specific names.



Mine is installed on our 2013 Palomino Puma travel trailer - the pivot part is 66" long and the rail part is 67 3/4" long. The rivets that attached the door to the pivot section all popped and the door came off the trailer. The hinge parts appear to be OK so I re-riveted the pivot part back on to the door edge.



Now, I have to figure out a way to reinstall the door - it must weight a hundred pounds and is ~ 6 1/2 ft long and 4 ft wide. I'm thinking I'll beg a couple of young guys from the RV park to help - load them and the door in the back of my pickup and move the truck alongside the trailer at the compartment opening.


Did you get your hinge fixed/replaced? Were you able to just replace the hinge or did you have to buy the whole door, frame, and hinge assembly?


Thanks for any info.


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