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01-26-2018, 04:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Hagerstown
Posts: 866
M.O.C. #16013
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maybe I`m over reacting
Keystone and all it`s infinite wisdom decided to put most all the useful switches for lights, slides, tank heaters, awning, hot water heater etc. you know the ones you use all the time especially when setting up or pulling out in a cabinet above your head with a door that swings out into the hall way at the top of the stairs. Maybe it`s just me but I have read of others doing it but didn`t understand what they were talking about until we got this Rear Den. You end up forgetting to close the door when running around getting things ready and ram head into the corner that`s circled. You want to talk pain and suffering. I've hit it twice the wife has hit it once (when I left the door open) and yes she punished me severely This is begging to be modified. This is more of a safety hazard than the discussion on what`s the right type of brake line material should be used for a disk brake conversion.
Mods will follow soon
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Electric Brakes ..... Disk Brakes, it`s the only way
F350 Ford Dually 4:10`s w/bags (payload 5595 lbs) Sumo Springs 63 gal aux tank
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01-26-2018, 05:53 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Reno
Posts: 140
M.O.C. #18681
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I am right there with you! My husband has hit it several times, once causing a pretty good gash and blood! I hit it once and it darn near made me sick because it hurt so bad! I've seen several folks say the just took the door off but I hesitate to do that because I don't want to stare at all those switches.
If anyone has other ideas, I love to hear them!!
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01-26-2018, 06:00 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Colorado Rockies
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M.O.C. #19755
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Scott & Alta
2017 Montana 3160RL, Legacy, Onan 5.5Kw, Solar
2022 F-450 Lariat Ultimate
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01-26-2018, 06:07 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,171
M.O.C. #6433
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Self closing hinges would be one option.
You could hinge the door on the opposite side leaving the handle where it is so that it would not look so obvious. Maybe add a very small knob on the opposite side.
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Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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01-26-2018, 06:18 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: South East NC
Posts: 1,768
M.O.C. #19865
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I hit my head once, learned to close the door ~~ I hope. If one more time I'll take the door off and change hinges to the top. Lift to open and when let go, it closes.
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01-26-2018, 06:43 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bee Branch
Posts: 2,620
M.O.C. #20693
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I have nearly done the same thing on this door several times already (we just got our new camper). I don't like the idea of a auto closing door because you would be constantly having to open it. I think simply removing the door and maybe trimming it out nicely would be the way to go? Its not like the switch panel is ugly is it?
Now if we could just find a way to make outdoor slide corners safe LOL....
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Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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01-26-2018, 06:45 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,318
M.O.C. #17894
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I like the fact that my 2011 3455sa has all the switches etc on the wall in plain view and NOT behind a closed door. Would be a PITA to open a door just to turn a light.
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01-26-2018, 07:32 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Hagerstown
Posts: 866
M.O.C. #16013
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got it
I have the solution....... I will start on it tomorrow, yep this will do it
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2018.5 3791 Rear Den Montana, on the lake no 3rd A/C, Mini Split, just do it
Electric Brakes ..... Disk Brakes, it`s the only way
F350 Ford Dually 4:10`s w/bags (payload 5595 lbs) Sumo Springs 63 gal aux tank
Reese Goosebox Mor/Ryde SRE 4000 X Factors Monroe shocks.... real smooth ride
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01-26-2018, 10:30 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Colorado Rockies
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M.O.C. #19755
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beeje
I like the fact that my 2011 3455sa has all the switches etc on the wall in plain view and NOT behind a closed door. Would be a PITA to open a door just to turn a light.
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You think that is a PITA? Those of us with In-Command do the following in order to turn on a light:
1. Open the cabinet door
2. Press a button to wake up In-Command
3. Enter digit 1 of the 4-digit pass code
4. Enter digit 2 of the 4-digit pass code
5. Enter digit 3 of the 4-digit pass code
6. Enter digit 4 of the 4-digit pass code
4. Press enter
5. Press the appropriate button to turn on the light
6. Close the cabinet door
Now that's real progress.
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2017 Montana 3160RL, Legacy, Onan 5.5Kw, Solar
2022 F-450 Lariat Ultimate
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01-26-2018, 11:20 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Bellingham
Posts: 25
M.O.C. #19696
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The only time I need to enter a code is if I want to move the slides. For lights I press the lower middle button to turn it on then press the lights button. Or you can just go to the appropriate light switch and flip it on.
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01-27-2018, 12:50 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Apr 2017
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M.O.C. #19755
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rsp
The only time I need to enter a code is if I want to move the slides. For lights I press the lower middle button to turn it on then press the lights button. Or you can just go to the appropriate light switch and flip it on.
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What year and model? Mine is the latest version; "Pro Plus". The time out is adjustable; I have it set to the maximum, I think 30 minutes. It does not matter what you want to do; lights, awnings, slides, etc; you have to unlock it before doing anything. I asked Jensen if the pass code could be disabled; nope.
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Scott & Alta
2017 Montana 3160RL, Legacy, Onan 5.5Kw, Solar
2022 F-450 Lariat Ultimate
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01-27-2018, 04:33 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Bellingham
Posts: 25
M.O.C. #19696
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2017-Model 3810MS Legacy Edition. On my cell phone I have to enter a code and do the full routine each time, but the panel in the trailer panel is as I noted. Currently I'm not at the 5th wheel so I don't know the model number of the panel. Originally it seemed like I had to enter a code each time, but that hasn't been the case for some time. I just assumed in my playing with it I did something in the set up. I do need to unlock it each time right after towing so my cell phone program will function.
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01-27-2018, 05:14 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bastrop
Posts: 2,892
M.O.C. #20753
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Yeah, whoever came up with that design should be hit in the head a couple of times. Proof positive designers never go camping or use their products.
My wife has been the victim of the door twice on our maiden trip.
4 digit code to turn on/off light.... hmmmm.. how soon until "Alexa, auto level camper."?
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2019 20th Anniversary Edition 3701LK
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01-27-2018, 06:11 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: owen sound
Posts: 491
M.O.C. #17566
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Ours is a 2015 3790RD and yes I hit my head a few times as did my wife however after the first 3 months or so we learned by the school of hard knocks to shut the door each time we open it..... hasn't been an issue in two years.
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01-27-2018, 06:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bastrop
Posts: 2,892
M.O.C. #20753
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Quote:
Originally Posted by speedster100
Ours is a 2015 3790RD and yes I hit my head a few times as did my wife however after the first 3 months or so we learned by the school of hard knocks to shut the door each time we open it..... hasn't been an issue in two years.
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3 Months!! My will will kill me if it takes me 3 months to learn something.
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2019 20th Anniversary Edition 3701LK
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01-27-2018, 06:20 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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Get a back-up alarm that will activate when door is open.
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Full Timers 9/1/2010 through 1/16/2020.
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01-27-2018, 06:35 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bee Branch
Posts: 2,620
M.O.C. #20693
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WeBeFulltime
Get a back-up alarm that will activate when door is open.
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Or just remove the door?
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James & Irene Wilson
Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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01-27-2018, 07:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bastrop
Posts: 2,892
M.O.C. #20753
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DW said no to removing the door. I figure 3 or 4 more lumps and she will rip it off. Door not my head.
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01-27-2018, 07:14 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bee Branch
Posts: 2,620
M.O.C. #20693
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One of the problems on ours is the door of the cabinet opens towards our main entry door! If it opened toward the middle of the camper I think it would be over the countertop and less likely to be an issue?
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James & Irene Wilson
Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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01-27-2018, 09:03 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Hagerstown
Posts: 866
M.O.C. #16013
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just a thought
There`s only 2 ways to fix this either remove the door or change the way the door opens. The wife says removing the door and exposing the switches full time was not a option . Something about ruining the motif of a $73,000 dollar camper? So this works for us I can open the door from the floor and walk up the stairs under it with out hitting it. Closing it is as simple as opening it and it locks in place with the old door catch. A little oil on the hinges, parts from my junk box and we are good to go.
Let the blood letting cease.
https://youtu.be/IKq3nz8_un4
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2018.5 3791 Rear Den Montana, on the lake no 3rd A/C, Mini Split, just do it
Electric Brakes ..... Disk Brakes, it`s the only way
F350 Ford Dually 4:10`s w/bags (payload 5595 lbs) Sumo Springs 63 gal aux tank
Reese Goosebox Mor/Ryde SRE 4000 X Factors Monroe shocks.... real smooth ride
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