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Old 01-15-2022, 03:21 PM   #1
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I want to hear from members that have upgraded their trucks to 19.5 rims and commercial tires ! Light duty tires on my 2016 Ram 3500 dually seem to wear out at about 35 - 40 K !! What have you upgraded to in rims and tires ? Thanks rc739@aol.com
 
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Old 01-15-2022, 09:40 PM   #2
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I have a 2017 3500 and it's still got the original tires on it with plenty of tread left. It's only got 70,000 miles on it due to cutting back on traveling due to Covid, but still that's twice what you are getting and if I replace them it will be due to age not wear. We have BF Goodrich on it right now.
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Old 01-16-2022, 07:43 AM   #3
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I want to hear from members that have upgraded their trucks to 19.5 rims and commercial tires ! Light duty tires on my 2016 Ram 3500 dually seem to wear out at about 35 - 40 K !! What have you upgraded to in rims and tires ? Thanks rc739@aol.com
I've not run 19.5s on my pickups but in the past was trucking and they are used on low profile trailers. The problem with 19.5s is that they are an oddball commercial tire. The normal trailer size is 22.5s and they can be found everywhere, they are good and relatively cheap. The 19.5s can be great tires, but harder to find and not cheap.

I would recommend you look around for pricing and availability before you make the switch. One other thing to check is that you may not find rims to match your bolt pattern so may be faced with adapters, which will put added strain on your axles and hubs, as well as trickier to get torqued properly.

I think what you are experiencing is the mileage from the crappy factory tires that still seem to come on duallies. As an alternative, look at the many good brands out there to find a long wearing tire. I haven't had a dually for a long time, but have had good success with BFG, Goodyear and Michelin. You should expect twice the mileage you are getting now if you upgrade to a better replacement tire.

But, let us know more about what you've tried and perhaps other reasons you are considering a change.

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I get about 35,000 miles out of a set of Michelin tires about the same as I got out of the original tires. I hear of people some on MOC that get 70,000 + but not me.
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I get about 35,000 miles out of a set of Michelin tires about the same as I got out of the original tires. I hear of people some on MOC that get 70,000 + but not me.
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Might want to have a look at something like this...
https://www.tirebuyer.com/education/...es-last-longer


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Might want to have a look at something like this...
https://www.tirebuyer.com/education/...es-last-longer


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Thanks Brad. I do all of that. I even drive it like I stole it, you know real easy so no one will notice. My F150 tires last great but not the F250.
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Thanks Brad. I do all of that. I even drive it like I stole it, you know real easy so no one will notice. My F150 tires last great but not the F250.
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Interesting; the last F250 I had was more than 25 years ago, so doesn't apply. But on my RAM trucks (2500 and 3500) I sure have expected a lot more mileage out of good tires like Michelin. I even got about 45,000 out of the crappy Firestones they sent out with my last 2500.
I wonder, is there an issue with certain year F250s? That just seems like poor results.

BTW, the article link I sent may be helpful for the OP as well; I'm still not sure if we've helped the OP with the real issue they are having.

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I've not run 19.5s on my pickups but in the past was trucking and they are used on low profile trailers. The problem with 19.5s is that they are an oddball commercial tire. The normal trailer size is 22.5s and they can be found everywhere, they are good and relatively cheap. The 19.5s can be great tires, but harder to find and not cheap.

I would recommend you look around for pricing and availability before you make the switch. One other thing to check is that you may not find rims to match your bolt pattern so may be faced with adapters, which will put added strain on your axles and hubs, as well as trickier to get torqued properly.

I think what you are experiencing is the mileage from the crappy factory tires that still seem to come on duallies. As an alternative, look at the many good brands out there to find a long wearing tire. I haven't had a dually for a long time, but have had good success with BFG, Goodyear and Michelin. You should expect twice the mileage you are getting now if you upgrade to a better replacement tire.

But, let us know more about what you've tried and perhaps other reasons you are considering a change.

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The tires on it now are Michelin’s that replaced the OEM. Tires. Why would they (Ram) put on 17’s rims and tires on their towing beast ? The 4500/5500 come with commercial tires and 10 lug rims. 19.5 tires have been around a long time and I don’t think they are an odd ball size, but that’s just my opinion.
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The tires on it now are Michelin’s that replaced the OEM. Tires. Why would they (Ram) put on 17’s rims and tires on their towing beast ? The 4500/5500 come with commercial tires and 10 lug rims. 19.5 tires have been around a long time and I don’t think they are an odd ball size, but that’s just my opinion.
Sorry for not being clear; 19.5s are not oddball in the size, just that for commercial use there is not as many made as the 22.5s, so that's why harder to get and more expensive.
So, why does the 3500 RAM dually not come with 19.5 tires? Because it is a pickup class truck not commercial class. Also, have you checked the prices of 19.5s? Usually they run about twice the price of the stock dually size tires. (~$450-500 each)

Other notes: the 3500 RAM dually compares to the F350 dually. Neither comes with "commercial" tires such as the 19.5s. The F450 is a bit of an oddball; while it competes with the RAM 4500, it comes with a pickup box and a lot of folks have used them to haul 5th wheels and gooseneck trailers. The F450 does come with 19.5s and while some guys like that, I have several friends who are going back to F350 duallies now. The 19.5s ride rougher, and a couple of friends have said they have been stranded trying to find tires on the road. (although with supply chain issues I think trying to find any tires is a challenge)

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Old 01-23-2022, 07:21 PM   #10
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The Michelin tires that came on my F350 Dually were softer riding but so happy I switched to Sailun~
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