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07-03-2022, 12:47 PM
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Water leak
Have a high country turned water heater bypass off to fill tank and this hap
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07-03-2022, 02:02 PM
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There should not be a reason to put the water heater into bypass to fill the tank, instead open a faucet inside. You may have the drain plug loose or completely off.
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07-03-2022, 02:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rohrmann
There should not be a reason to put the water heater into bypass to fill the tank, instead open a faucet inside. You may have the drain plug loose or completely off.
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What is the bypass/ fill lever? Also why is water coming out the rear of camper by electrical hook up
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07-08-2022, 02:22 PM
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Hello,
I just noticed pooling of water under my hot water compartment - appears to be coming from the tip of the anode/plug/spigot)
I just changed the anode last summer - do I need to do it again?
Thanks
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07-03-2022, 02:28 PM
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Here is a picture of the NORMAL valve positions.
To FILL your freshwater tank turn the
"Tank Fill Power Fresh" valve to FILL.
Once full, you will see water run out the freshwater tank overflow vent at the back on the side of your rig (your first picture). Turn the valve back to the NORMAL FLOW position or your water pump will cycle every few minutes. Also make sure your freshwater tank drain cap underneath is screwed on tight.
IF you are traveling with a full freshwater tank, be aware when you turn a right hand corner (highway clover leaf) you will see water spraying out this vent. Centrifugal force and hydrodynamic.
Looking at your water heater picture, it looks like the water is coming out the anode hole where the anode rod goes in. Use teflon tape on the anode rod threads and do NOT OVER tighten it. It's a tapered fitting.
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07-03-2022, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daryles
Here is a picture of the NORMAL valve positions.
To FILL your freshwater tank turn the
"Tank Fill Power Fresh" valve to FILL.
Once full, you will see water run out the freshwater tank overflow vent at the back on the side of your rig (your first picture). Turn the valve back to the NORMAL FLOW position or your water pump will cycle every few minutes. Also make sure your freshwater tank drain cap underneath is screwed on tight.
IF you are traveling with a full freshwater tank, be aware when you turn a right hand corner (highway clover leaf) you will see water spraying out this vent. Centrifugal force and hydrodynamic.
Looking at your water heater picture, it looks like the water is coming out the anode hole where the anode rod goes in. Use teflon tape on the anode rod threads and do NOT OVER tighten it. It's a tapered fitting.
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I am hooked to a water supply not running off of tanks what position should the water heater valve be in when hooked up to a water hose not running off with the freshwater tanks thank you I'm new to all this
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07-03-2022, 03:16 PM
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Set Water Heater By-Pass to OFF (you only use the water heater by-pass when you winterize your unit)
Set Winterize to OFF
Set Tank Fill Power Fresh to NORMAL FLOW
As Daryles said, make sure the Anode Rod is wrapped with teflon thread tape and snug but not over tightened.
If you have the quick disconnect hose for the outside water connection in the convenience center, connect that and turn on the hot water. If you don't have that hose then turn on the hot water at the kitchen sink or bathroom and turn the external water on. This will bleed the air out of the water heater as it fills. (Another way to bleed the air is pull up the lever on the over pressure valve (silver lever with the circle of blue under).
At this point your fresh water tank is FULL, so you may want to look under the rig and find the drain so you can shed some of that water before you head down the road unless you plan to go boondock somewhere soon.
Good Luck!!
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07-03-2022, 03:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CM7018
Set Water Heater By-Pass to OFF (you only use the water heater by-pass when you winterize your unit)
Set Winterize to OFF
Set Tank Fill Power Fresh to NORMAL FLOW
As Daryles said, make sure the Anode Rod is wrapped with teflon thread tape and snug but not over tightened.
If you have the quick disconnect hose for the outside water connection in the convenience center, connect that and turn on the hot water. If you don't have that hose then turn on the hot water at the kitchen sink or bathroom and turn the external water on. This will bleed the air out of the water heater as it fills. (Another way to bleed the air is pull up the lever on the over pressure valve (silver lever with the circle of blue under).
At this point your fresh water tank is FULL, so you may want to look under the rig and find the drain so you can shed some of that water before you head down the road unless you plan to go boondock somewhere soon.
Good Luck!!
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Thank u so much
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07-03-2022, 03:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whitetrashcobra
Thank u so much
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Im running of electric water heater do recommend the LP for winter only? And there shouldnt be a pilot light with electric correct
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07-12-2022, 02:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whitetrashcobra
Thank u so much
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WHAT you did was put the lever to Fill Fresh Water Tank.. The water coming out is because the tank is full of water and it's going out the overflow.. Underneath should be a cap.. Unscrew the cap and let the water drain.. there is a fitting inside the tube where the cap is.. don't lose it.. It goes on before the cap..
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07-10-2022, 01:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whitetrashcobra
I am hooked to a water supply not running off of tanks what position should the water heater valve be in when hooked up to a water hose not running off with the freshwater tanks thank you I'm new to all this
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The water heater is either normal, or bypassed for winterizing. It works regardless of city water or internal tanks. From your picture it looks like you have the water fill (the internal tanks) on thus causing the eventual overflow, and I can't tell for sure but it looks like maybe the water heater anode is not installed. If the previous owner had winterized, he may have forgot to install a new anode. Get one, teflon, 1.25" socket, done.
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07-05-2022, 05:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daryles
Here is a picture of the NORMAL valve positions.
To FILL your freshwater tank turn the
"Tank Fill Power Fresh" valve to FILL.
Once full, you will see water run out the freshwater tank overflow vent at the back on the side of your rig (your first picture). Turn the valve back to the NORMAL FLOW position or your water pump will cycle every few minutes. Also make sure your freshwater tank drain cap underneath is screwed on tight.
IF you are traveling with a full freshwater tank, be aware when you turn a right hand corner (highway clover leaf) you will see water spraying out this vent. Centrifugal force and hydrodynamic.
Looking at your water heater picture, it looks like the water is coming out the anode hole where the anode rod goes in. Use teflon tape on the anode rod threads and do NOT OVER tighten it. It's a tapered fitting.
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Thanks while u guys are in here i have 2 black tanks black 1 us almost full will it spill to black 2 before i need to drian?
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07-04-2022, 04:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whitetrashcobra
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In your first picture, this is the vent for your fresh water tank. It also serves as the overflow when your tank is full. This is normal and lets you know that your fresh water tank is completely full.
In the second picture, it appears that the anode rod is not installed. Based on the flow of water from the water heater there appears to be a gaping hole where the anode rod should go.
You would only turn ON the water heater bypass to winterize the coach with antifreeze. This lets you put the antifreeze in the water lines without having to fill the 6 or 12 gallon water heater. Leave the bypass off during normal operation.
If you are hooked up to water supply, you do not need to fill your fresh tank, so you can leave that in normal position also. Using the power fill will divert the water to your tank and fill it.
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07-04-2022, 12:42 PM
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The water heater in the photo appears to be an Atwood/Dometic water heater which would have an aluminum tank and if so, it will not have an anode, but likely a plastic drain plug which needs to be tightened so it doesn't leak.
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07-10-2022, 02:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RMcNeal
In your first picture, this is the vent for your fresh water tank. It also serves as the overflow when your tank is full. This is normal and lets you know that your fresh water tank is completely full.
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It also serves as a backup gravity fill. Remove the cover and the screen. You can now use a funnel or spout to fill your water tank.
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07-05-2022, 05:12 AM
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Will it hurt to run an anode?
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07-05-2022, 05:13 AM
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While you guys are in here i have 2 black tanks 1 is almost full will it just spill into the second until it is full also then dump?
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07-05-2022, 05:22 AM
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Waste water tanks, black and gray, don't combine automatically. They are plumbed separately and don't mix. Some have tried to "equalize" them by blocking the outlet then opening to two tanks so the contents equalize between the two. This really doesn't work well since, the front black and gray tanks are in the drop frame and as such will sit lower than the galley gray, and other black tanks to the rear. In that situation, all the waste water from the rear tanks would fill the front tanks in the drop frame. This could be dangerous, especially if you have the old 2 piece tanks with a glued lid. Many problems with the popping apart when filled to capacity.
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07-05-2022, 05:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RMcNeal
Waste water tanks, black and gray, don't combine automatically. They are plumbed separately and don't mix. Some have tried to "equalize" them by blocking the outlet then opening to two tanks so the contents equalize between the two. This really doesn't work well since, the front black and gray tanks are in the drop frame and as such will sit lower than the galley gray, and other black tanks to the rear. In that situation, all the waste water from the rear tanks would fill the front tanks in the drop frame. This could be dangerous, especially if you have the old 2 piece tanks with a glued lid. Many problems with the popping apart when filled to capacity.
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I only have the 1 toilet why do i have 2 black tanks ..will the second ever fill?
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07-05-2022, 05:31 AM
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The only rigs I've seen with 2 black tanks have 2 toilets in them. Are you sure you have 2 black tanks? Ours has 1 black and 2 gray tanks. One gray tank is the galley/kitchen sink and the other is the bathroom sink and shower. The latter is installed in the front drop frame next to the black tank.
What model do you have?
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