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10-20-2021, 03:23 PM
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#121
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: STUARTS DRAFT, VA
Posts: 140
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Coming home from last trip I had a panic stop. When I got home I noticed my tires on the front axle had bad flat spots. I asked my local tire guy to find me 2 Sailuns as the rear axle tires showed no damage and are 1 year old. I specifically asked them to find Sailuns produced in China and not Vietnam. When I took the trailer in for the install, I was sorry to see the replacement tires were made in Vietnam but a very recent date code, spring of 2021. Fingers are crossed now that I have 2 and 2 plus a Chinese spare. It will be easy to compare now!
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John and Carrie
2021 Montana 3121RL Legacy
2020 F-250 Lariat 4X4 Short 3.55
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10-20-2021, 04:13 PM
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#122
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
Posts: 1,109
M.O.C. #22986
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White, keep and eye on them !! mine failed and caused some damage ! tread separation.
Tony
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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10-20-2021, 04:19 PM
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#123
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
Posts: 1,109
M.O.C. #22986
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Originally Posted by bshgto
Considering the weight over the standard china bombs that come from the factory, Sailuns could do real damage to a camper if it came apart. I`ll need a new set in a year and a half. Wonder if you`ll even be able to find a Sailun not made in Vietnam by then. That was a stinKing heLl hoLe and this just another example of why. Maybe I should locate a China set and sit on them till needed.
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I still have (not on the trailer anymore) 2 China ones that have outlasted 2 Vietnam ones. I got lucky... being retired I had the time to track down corporate in the US and file complaints and request reimbursement for the 2 tires and damage. I got everything I asked for after they examined the tires.....
This goes for everyone, if you need help please let me know !! I have all the required contact info and can steer you in the right direction !! It takes time but you will get your money back... until they get tough with us I guess.
Tony
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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10-21-2021, 01:32 PM
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#124
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Crystal River
Posts: 45
M.O.C. #22427
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I just had two Sailun tires fail. Both were on the rear axle and both failed within 20 miles of each other. The center tread came off both tires but pressure was never lost. We had been full time until a few months ago and have been using Sailun for the past 3 years. As noted in the original post, both tires are stamped made in Vietnam. I had them installed in March of this year while were in the Phoenix area for a couple of months. I had all four disc brake pads replaced as well as the springs. While doing that work I had two new tires put on the rear axle. We drove from Phoenix to central Florida and it has been parked until this recent short trip. I did not notice the made in Vietnam until now. Both tires also have the 1Y stamp and were made in 2020. I bought both from Big O tire in Mesa, AZ. I'll try and attach a picture but it will look like the original post, but mine did not lose air pressure at any time.
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Crystal River, FL
2017 Ford 350 DRW, 2014 3610RL, 900 W solar, 600 AHrs BB Lithium, Go Power IC 3000 inverter
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10-21-2021, 02:22 PM
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#125
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
Posts: 1,109
M.O.C. #22986
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To everyone that has had a failure make sure you spend the time to call the NHTSA and file a complaint. The more complaints the sooner they will look into these failures.
Tony
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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10-22-2021, 08:41 AM
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#126
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SWFL
Posts: 964
M.O.C. #17801
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I just discovered there's a Facebook Montana Owners page, and reports of Sailun failures there, too. I did not check posters to see if they're the same folks here.
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2016 Montana 3711FL
2005 Ford F350, 6.0 diesel, short bed
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10-22-2021, 10:09 AM
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#127
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Jensen Beach
Posts: 36
M.O.C. #26158
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So if the Vietnam Sailuns are no good and nobody can reliably source the China made tires, what is a good alternative?
Does stepping up to a tire such as this continental. Inner island tire make sense to avoid an explosion under your camper when towing?
https://www.prioritytire.com/contine...All%20Products
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2020 Montana 3121 RL Legacy
8K axles and H Rated Sailun 637 tires
2019 Silverado 2500HD Longbed BW Turnover / Companion Hitch
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10-22-2021, 10:59 AM
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#128
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
Posts: 1,109
M.O.C. #22986
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phillyg
I just discovered there's a Facebook Montana Owners page, and reports of Sailun failures there, too. I did not check posters to see if they're the same folks here.
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Yeah I’m On that page too. I know they are different but don’t know who is there..?
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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10-22-2021, 11:02 AM
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#129
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
Posts: 1,109
M.O.C. #22986
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FloridaFiver
So if the Vietnam Sailuns are no good and nobody can reliably source the China made tires, what is a good alternative?
Does stepping up to a tire such as this continental. Inner island tire make sense to avoid an explosion under your camper when towing?
https://www.prioritytire.com/contine...All%20Products
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Interesting I didn’t know they made them in 17.5. I went with 19.5 commercial wheels and commercial Continental tires. I know I put a picture of them here somewhere. I was on the Vanleigh FB page and someone mentioned boar wheels and from there I looked them up and it seemed like a good fit.
For the record I’m saying the sailuns in Vietnam are garbage based on MY experience with them that’s all. If people are getting lucky with them great !! I believe the best consumer is one who is informed !!!
Tony
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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10-23-2021, 04:51 AM
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#130
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 2,141
M.O.C. #25165
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Tony, I agree. The more info the better. I just put on 5 new Vietnam Sailuns. Can you tell based on your issues what to look for? I'm being very cautious with them now. Did you ever find out exactly what the problem was? I'm about to make a 2500 mile trip in a couple of weeks and I'm not ready to replace new tires again.
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Robert & Diana McNeal
2019 Montana Legacy 3791RD 20th Anniversary Edition
2014 F350 4x4 6.7L SRW
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10-23-2021, 08:10 AM
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#131
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
Posts: 1,109
M.O.C. #22986
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RMcNeal
Tony, I agree. The more info the better. I just put on 5 new Vietnam Sailuns. Can you tell based on your issues what to look for? I'm being very cautious with them now. Did you ever find out exactly what the problem was? I'm about to make a 2500 mile trip in a couple of weeks and I'm not ready to replace new tires again.
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There really was no rhyme or reason why they both failed, they just failed. I never got the why they failed only what did it cost to repair and replace the 2 tires. Definitely run tpms. When mine went I got an alert and pulled over right away. The first time it was just tread separation and no damage. The second time I had no where to go and it caused damage. There was an immediate low pressure warning but the tires were still holding air. Personally I would also run them at 105 and stay under 70.
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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10-23-2021, 08:18 AM
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#132
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 2,141
M.O.C. #25165
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Thanks. I do run TPMS and never exceed 65 mph. I think I'll be stopping more frequently to GOAL, just to ease my mind. I've got about 2000 miles on them now and so far so good, but definitely concerning.
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Robert & Diana McNeal
2019 Montana Legacy 3791RD 20th Anniversary Edition
2014 F350 4x4 6.7L SRW
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10-23-2021, 02:30 PM
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#133
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Chatsworth
Posts: 469
M.O.C. #10933
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I just posted a favourable review of Sailuns before I read this topic. Now I'm not so sure. If Sailun is building all their RV tires in Viet Nam, then when the time comes, I'll have to do my homework and find another favourite. These companies think their so smart with their cost cuts and outsourcing. What's smart about throwing your loyal customers away to save a few bucks?
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10-23-2021, 03:06 PM
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#134
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Lobelville
Posts: 2,128
M.O.C. #6650
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We have about 500 miles on our Saliuns, in the process of replacing them with Goodyear G614, had Goodyear G614's, or Goodyear H-series, never had and issue.
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10-23-2021, 03:10 PM
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#135
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
Posts: 1,109
M.O.C. #22986
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Quote:
Originally Posted by artfuldodger
I just posted a favourable review of Sailuns before I read this topic. Now I'm not so sure. If Sailun is building all their RV tires in Viet Nam, then when the time comes, I'll have to do my homework and find another favourite. These companies think their so smart with their cost cuts and outsourcing. What's smart about throwing your loyal customers away to save a few bucks?
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Agreed. I would have happily purchased sailuns made in China. Never had a single problem with them.
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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10-23-2021, 03:11 PM
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#136
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
Posts: 1,109
M.O.C. #22986
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I saw that continental makes 17.5 tires too. I would have looked into that before upgrading to the 19.5 commercial set up.
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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10-23-2021, 05:38 PM
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#137
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 281
M.O.C. #23051
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I have been a Sailun fan for a while and removed the factory OEM Rainiers on our MHC within the first few months. Once I saw and felt the weight difference between the E and F rates tires and then the G rated Sailuns I was sold. I've had the Sailuns on our rig for three years and run them at around 105-110 psi at around 65-68 mph on a regular basis. It has never bothered me that these were made in China. My future plan is to replace them after 4-5 years with the same.
Now that the failures have started and seem to be with the Vietnam made tires, I too will have to think about my future replacements. I still believe in the G rated tires but the Vietnam plant startup and then reported failures would concern any Sailun believer.
Too bad there isn't a customer service site we could go to as a Sailun fan and express our concerns directly with Sailun. Getting direct feedback from end users could prove valuable to them if they will be willing to address the separation issue and make a better tire in Vietnam.
I'm with everyone here...no one wants to drag these heavy fifth wheels down the highway at 65-70 mph and have a failure that tears up our rig.
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2019 Montana High Country 331RL
2017 Ford F250 Super Duty, 6.7 PSD
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11-07-2021, 02:21 PM
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#138
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: League City
Posts: 43
M.O.C. #21290
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Add me to the list of those with tread separation on Vietnam manufactured tires. I just purchased them in April with the date code of 4020. I'll be reporting this failure to NHTSA and writing my congressmen as this is very concerning. My kids are almost always in the backseat of my truck while we're towing 15K lbs of rolling mass. I understand that manufacturing issues happen but Sailun doesn't seem to be owning up to this to ensure they maintain the goodwill they've earned from the RV public over the past several years.
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2022 F450 Dually
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11-07-2021, 03:08 PM
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#139
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
Posts: 1,109
M.O.C. #22986
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yikes ! at least everyone is ok ! This pictures look really familiar !! Yes please report to NHTSA, I did. Start the process of getting replacements and your money back on this tires they are warranted. If you need help PM me !
Tony
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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11-07-2021, 04:02 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Reno
Posts: 293
M.O.C. #22620
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Years ago I worked for a business machine company. The company decided to move some of their manufacturing off shore. The workers and engineers at the home factory were upset about the 'off shoring' so they decided to send the original manufacturing specs to the new plant. When the first bookkeeping machines came off the new line they had none of the 20+ years of fixes, enhancements or upgrades.
Maybe that's what's going on here.
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