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Old 01-18-2017, 01:51 AM   #1
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Tires for tow vehicle

My second set of Michelin LTX is showing excessive wear on all four tires. Center tread is good but inside and outside edges down to nothing after 31K miles. Michelin made a generous adjustment when the first set was replaced and offered a 35% adjustment on this set. With two bad experiences on these tires and the same echoed by many on this forum when Ron Ames brought this to light in 2015 I think it is time to cut my loses. So what is everyone running on their TV's? Like to hear both success and disappointments. Thanks, Jim
 
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Old 01-18-2017, 02:33 AM   #2
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I have not had good luck with Michelins though others will run nothing else. I also had LTX on my previous TV (RAM 2500 CTD 4x4 SB) and only got a little over 20k on a 70k rated tire. Neither Michelin nor the tire dealer I purchased them from offered any pro rate or other compensation towards a new set. I replaced my OEM tires on my current TV with Toyo Open Country AT's. Not enough miles on them yet to form a fact based opinion but I do like the tread depth and pattern and they are as quiet as the OEM.
If I'm going to invest over $1k in tires I want them to last.
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Old 01-18-2017, 03:00 AM   #3
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Old 01-18-2017, 03:18 AM   #4
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Center good and edges worn generally indicates running under inflated.

How to read tire wear.

I have had good luck with Michelin tires and continue to run them on my F350, DW's Expedition, and the Monte.
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Old 01-18-2017, 03:38 AM   #5
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I use the Michelins and love them, got over 40,000 on last set with no uneven wear observed. All of the miles were towing for the most part. Tokyo would be my next choice from reviews on this site.
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We use Goodyear Wranglers and have had good luck on both sets. Only issue was a large nail thru the sidewall on one when it was really time to replace anyway. We use ours for both on and off road.
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Nearly 25,000 on my Michelins and wearing beautifully. Do think under-inflation could be an issue. I do run 65 in the front and 70 in the rear, pretty much all of the time. Might bump the rear to 75 when pulling Monty.
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Nearly 25,000 on my Michelins and wearing beautifully. Do think under-inflation could be an issue. I do run 65 in the front and 70 in the rear, pretty much all of the time. Might bump the rear to 75 when pulling Monty.
I'll keep 60-65 in front, but will run only 50-55 rear when empty, and have not experienced any abnormal tire wear.

Yes it could be an issue, but many deflate their tires for a better ride ,especially on the 1 tons.
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Old 01-18-2017, 09:55 AM   #9
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I used Michelins on current and previous truck. Probably 120K miles overall. Always get at least 40K with even wear on each set. I also use them on Montana (mine is lighter than newer ones). Have never had uneven wear. And I always run what is listed on the door jam of the truck and 80 lb on trailer.
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We use Goodyear Wranglers and have had good luck on both sets. Only issue was a large nail thru the sidewall on one when it was really time to replace anyway. We use ours for both on and off road.
I ran Firestone TransForce A/T's last set. Got about 50,000 out of them. I went back to the Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor because I liked the traction factor better on them. First set, I got over 60,000 on them. Wranglers are very quiet for an all terrain tire.
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Thanks to all for your responses. I do pay pretty close attention to tire pressure. I run by the recommended pressure on the door post. For my truck that is 60psi front tires, 70psi rear tires when loaded & 45psi when empty. (Dodge recommends what they call light load pressure when empty to improve the ride.) Followed that religiously when I bought the truck in 09 with Michelin Highway tires on it. They wore great but with about 42K miles I went to the Michelin LTX M/S because I wanted better tread for the snow we get and the mud roads I hunt and fish. Continued to do the same pressures with the new tires. Probably did not watch them as well as I should have and had to replace them when they had about 45K That is when Michelin gave me the very generous pro rate. They did have me get the truck weighed empty and call them. Did so and the only recommendation they made was to increase the light load pressure to 50psi. About 15k into this new set I noticed the wear on both edges. Adjusted the light load pressure up to 55psi but continued to see the wear. Perhaps I should have adjusted the light load even higher but I know I can't leave it at 70psi as it will shake the fillings out of you teeth. So having said all that, for those of you who do adjust psi when empty, how much do you adjust it?
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Hey Jim!

How goes it? I had the LTX on our F350 and had over 4/32" remaining tread at 43,000 miles. I wanted more tread for the AZ trip his winter so I replaced the orignal tire with the same new ones, I figure if I trade the truck this summer I'll recoup some of the expense on trade and get the benefit of new tread for winter driving.

I run the fronts at 65 psi and the backs at 80 psi when towing. If I think of it, when not towing I run the rears at 65 psi. The original tires had no uneven wear or other problems.

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Old 01-19-2017, 10:53 AM   #13
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Hey Dave, It goes good and thanks for your reply. I think my issue probably is I just ran them too low of psi when empty and didn't pay enough attention to wear patterns.
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How goes it? I had the LTX on our F350 and had over 4/32" remaining tread at 43,000 miles. I wanted more tread for the AZ trip his winter so I replaced the orignal tire with the same new ones, I figure if I trade the truck this summer I'll recoup some of the expense on trade and get the benefit of new tread for winter driving.

I run the fronts at 65 psi and the backs at 80 psi when towing. If I think of it, when not towing I run the rears at 65 psi. The original tires had no uneven wear or other problems.

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Old 01-19-2017, 02:48 PM   #14
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Ram reccomends 80 psi in front and my truck weighs the same in the front loaded or empty.So i always have 80 psi in the front tires.I put 70 psi in the rear duals loaded and they aren't as close to max weight as the front tires. Empty i put 60 psi in the rears if i think about it.
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Ram reccomends 80 psi in front
Is that what it says on your door pillar? That's 20 psi higher than mine.
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Last year, I needed to get a tire with a bit more traction for snow than the Michelin we had. I talked to my tire guy about what I wanted, and he came up with the Nitto Terra Grappler G2. I had never given a thought to Nitto's, and was surprised that they are made in the USA, and have very good traction and also handle dry roads very well. So far, they are wearing extremely well, so I may have a new tire that I will continue to use in the future.
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I am now a great fan of Nokian Rotiiva all weather tires that have the mountain snowflake symbol for severe winter use, but can be used year round. I can say they are great in snow and ice, much better than all season tires, but not quite as good as dedicated winter ones, but quiet and tow Monty well in summer.
A great tire if you need winter and summer tires but don't want 8 tires and rims.
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Ram reccomends 80 psi in front
Is that what it says on your door pillar? That's 20 psi higher than mine.
My Chevy says 55 or 60 (can't remember) front and 70 rear. So 80 seems really high for the front. My truck weighs about 5000 or 5500 in the front loaded or not.
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Jim, I went with Coopers on our TV beftire andore heading for AZ. Great tire and made here in the US. Come on down and see us!
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My F350 came with BF Goodrich TA's/ I got over 60000 miles on the originals, so I replaced them with the same tires.
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