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Old 06-07-2023, 12:55 PM   #1
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Torque wheels after removal

I have followed the Lippert recommendations for torqueing the wheels. It also recommends stopping at 10-25-50 miles to check torque. We leave tomorrow morning and I plan on following their recommendations. The biggest problem is finding somewhere safe to pull off and check. But have to ask the question, is this really necessary?

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Old 06-07-2023, 01:14 PM   #2
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Whenever I take a TV wheel off, have always torqued the lug nuts to spec. I even bought a larger torque wrench so it is easier to apply the high levels of torque required. But, I only do it 1x. Have never had any issues in 24 years of RV'ing. I can see why they recommend checking after you drive a bit, but 4 times (initial + the mileage intervals) seems like a lot.
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Old 06-07-2023, 01:17 PM   #3
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I have followed the Lippert recommendations for torqueing the wheels. It also recommends stopping at 10-25-50 miles to check torque. We leave tomorrow morning and I plan on following their recommendations. The biggest problem is finding somewhere safe to pull off and check. But have to ask the question, is this really necessary?

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I personally have not stopped after a tire change to retorque lugs; but it can't be a bad idea.
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Old 06-07-2023, 01:22 PM   #4
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Well, when a shop replaces tires or does bearings/brakes, I wonder if folks check the torque after a few miles.

I’m from a mfrg engrg background so inclined towards following the recommendations of mfrs and pros. So, I went ahead and checked torques after recently DIYing the bearing repack. I was able to find enough places on the road to do this safely - super wide (like triple wide) shoulders, gas station, large parking lot, etc. It doesn’t take very long - 10 mins? 1 or 2 nuts out of 32 turned a few degrees on the first stop.
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Old 06-07-2023, 01:38 PM   #5
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The aluminum (or whatever material) rims are known to loosen after installing. I always check the torque but more like at 50 & 100 miles.
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Old 06-07-2023, 01:47 PM   #6
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I would torque them before I left and then just enjoy my trip. I’m willing to bet the transport driver didn’t stop and check them on his way to the dealer.
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Old 06-07-2023, 04:57 PM   #7
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It’s a little more important to do the 10, 25, 50 mile thing when new. And yes I agree that the delivery drivers probably don’t do it but as an example my lugs didn’t budge after reinstalling drums to pack wheel bearings the first time, but when I converted to disc brakes and 8000# wheel ends, I got some loosening the first time out. Now they are set and haven’t loosened since the initial torque sequence. The new lugs stretch a bit and then stop I think.
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Old 06-07-2023, 05:12 PM   #8
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I would check them very shortly after install.
Saw a car get front ended by a loose tire/wheel combo from a car that had just left the tire store.
Then I would just do a quick double check at a rest area down the road.
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I would do a recheck but are they going to come off nope not a chance.
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Old 06-07-2023, 06:44 PM   #10
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I just re-torqued mine. 2 were slightly loose. I check every other trip or 800 miles. Takes 5 minuets.
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Old 06-07-2023, 07:17 PM   #11
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The reason aluminum trailer wheels need to be torqued multiple times after re-installation and occasionally afterwards is due to the side stresses on the wheels that don't happen to cars or trucks. These side stresses are also what causes scrubbing to the tires when making turns with the trailer. The side stresses cause the lug nuts to loosen because the aluminum actually moves a bit under the nuts. The last thing anybody wants is to see one of the trailer wheels passing you on the highway and possibly crashing into another vehicle. Checking torque is cheap and it doesn't have to be done at those exact intervals, just the next stop usually works for me, and I have regularly have found some where I get a bit more of a turn on them.
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Old 06-09-2023, 07:09 AM   #12
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After removal and replace I also do the 100 mile check.
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Old 06-10-2023, 11:20 AM   #13
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I do the check a 25 or close to that when I come upon a rest area I can pull into or an exit that has a large parking lot near it after I've had tires off. I check them before the initial roll out, the 25 mile point, and when I stop for the night again. I try and check them before leaving the next day also. I might be overdoing it but better safe than sorry!
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Old 06-10-2023, 01:32 PM   #14
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CHECK TORQUE ON EVERYTHING.
Wheels, suspension, leaf spring bolts, U bolt nuts.
You would be surprised that they can work their way loose after a while.
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Old 06-10-2023, 04:12 PM   #15
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CHECK TORQUE ON EVERYTHING.
Wheels, suspension, leaf spring bolts, U bolt nuts.
You would be surprised that they can work their way loose after a while.
You're correct. When I replaced one brake assemble due to the lining coming unbonded I found one of the backing plate nuts loose.
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I usually go 50 miles or so and look for the next rest area to pull off and check. I keep torqueing the bolts until they are set after checking 2 more times. After that, I don't worry about it anymore. It has worked for me for decades.
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I now retorque after anyone else has touched my vehicle. Had new tires installed on my TV and a week later heading out with the trailer connected felt a strange sensation and finally stopped to check it out. A guy who was following me pulled over and told me the left rear wheel of my truck was wobbling. Sure enough the mechanic must have gotten called off to the phone or something and hadn't torqued that wheel. By the time I caught it the wheel was ruined. The tire store was very apologetic and of course replaced it at their cost. Had I retorqued after 25-50 miles I would have found the issue before it damaged the wheel.

Having said that I've always checked the torque before I leave with the trailer and have never found a nut not to spec.
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Old 06-15-2023, 08:08 AM   #18
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My experience with two RVs and 150,000 miles of towing is that it takes four torque sequences to reach the point that the lug nuts will not tighten any more. From that point going forward, I check the torque at 1,000 mile intervals. My logic - better safe than sorry.
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Just put on 4 new Sailuns prior to our current trip, following the recommended mileage / re-torque sequence and glad we did so. Afterwards recheck torque prior to each trip as well as after arriving at our destination. Reasoning being paranoid / OCD...
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maybe?

Every once and a while I`ve noticed a camper guy in a camp ground or rest stop torquing they`re lug nuts. But Ive never noticed a motor home do the same thing, same aluminum wheel and idea? So the guy next to me has a motorhome and I asked him if he ever retorqued the lug nuts after a tire change he said don`t have a torque wrench that will go to the required torque and have never been told to do it after a change or flat.
Some thing is different or the lawyers have put their finger in it.
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