Dura max buy back

[BB_TX]

I don’t think this has been posted.

Some problem with the 6.6 L Duramax is leading GM to buy back some of them. No details on what the problem is or what years are involved. Apparently details to come. That’s bad enough. But owners involved may not be able to get all of the options they have on their current buy back trucks due to the on going chip shortages. Will be interesting to see how deep this goes.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/04...ity-issue/amp/

[RKassl]

Saw that too but no details of model years.

[mlh]

I was talking to a customer in our shop. He worked for GM. His job was to fix problems the dealers couldn’t fix. This has nothing to do with this buyback but he said GM and all the manufacturers bought back vehicles all the time that they couldn’t fix. You would think any problem could be fixed but he said these new vehicles were so complicated they had problems that couldn’t be fixed.
Lynwood

[Montana Man]

I know a guy that had a Ford 6.0 that was bought back plus legal fees and a little for being unusable for so long. I would have thought Ram would have bought mine back after 11 recalls, some of which are unfixable. At least the powertrain is solid.

[DutchmenSport]

Originally Posted by mlh

...You would think any problem could be fixed but he said these new vehicles were so complicated they had problems that couldn’t be fixed.
Lynwood

Looks like science fiction has finally become reality. Technology has advanced so much, that no one can fix it any more. Maybe they should hire an Artificial Intelligence robot to fix those vehicles now!???

I hope mine is old enough it's not part of that fiasco. It's completely paid for, and if they want to buy it back, they better do a complete swap even with another 3500 dually diesel long bed, crew cab WITH my fifth wheel hitch installed, bed liner sprayed in, and all the other additions I've done to it.

[77cruiser]

https://www.duramaxforum.com/threads...issue.1021288/

[1wayhighway]

well that would be a bummer if they wanted our truck back.

[DutchmenSport]

Maybe this is really a ploy to get the big pick-up trucks off the road so then can force electric vehicles down our throats? I'm a conspiracist and so far, most of the conspiracies have proven true over the last 60 years.

[432bartman]

I'm on the L5P and 2020+ Duramax forums and it seems the main problem with SOME is the DEF heater located inside the DEF tank, which is burning out. Some people are reporting waiting periods of over 2 months for parts.....which would lead me to start the lemon law process if they cannot fix the problem within 30 days. So far, I have 21K on my 2020 and can report zero problems. For me it is hands down the best pulling truck I've owned out of 4 previous Duramax platforms.

[Bourbon County]

I worked for an automaker (not GM) for >31 years and can tell you that a playbook for a buy back is already out there; don't know if GM uses it or maybe tweaks it a bit.

The trouble they had was rust in the ladder frames of their small pickups under the bed. It's an area that likely wouldn't be noticed unless the bed was removed for some reason or a catastrophic failure occurred. I believe this defect took about 10 or so years to manifest itself. I didn't learn of this through any company communications I have a good friend who happened to own one of the effected models who told me about it.

I wouldn't look for some widespread communication from GM, the trucks in question can be tracked down by VIN numbers and individual owners identified through DMV or warranty records. Don't look for a guy to approach you and offer a brief case full of previously circulated bills in exchange for you signing your title over. You will likely get a really good offer for trading in on a new one, which as mentioned might be problematic now. GM will want to keep you in their family. My previous company also had a minimum ownership length of time requirement which might not be applicable in this case. In other words; if you know this is happening, don't go out and buy similar trucks in the same age range expecting to cash in multiple times. Ownership is very easily traced.

Don't try to speculate how far reaching the problem is. It could be as simple as one batch of suspect parts, one operator not doing their process correctly, or even an torque wrench out of calibration. Auto makers keep immaculate records and can easily identify a range of VIN numbers within question.

[BB_TX]

With social media, brand specific forums (sometimes more than one for a brand), brand bashing by owners of other brands, etc., it is amazing there is no public knowledge of the issue. Almost as though they have discovered a critical issue that has not yet manifested itself into a major problem, but is expected to become so. A buy back and resulting bad publicity is not something done lightly.

[Foldbak]

I only have 5400 on my 2020. Buyback? Like the price I paid plus upgrades?

[ScaryPapa]

In the current market they can buy back all these trucks, fix them and then resell them for way more than they paid for them.

[cotter key]

I remember sometime back in the 80's GM had some problems with fuel tanks. There were certain model and year 3/4 and 1 ton pickups affected. At the time I had a 81 454 1 ton srw with dual tanks and it was one in the "recall".

I received like a certified voucher for like $5000 good only if I traded in the truck and bought a new one. Just go make the best I could and then present the voucher like a cash down payment.

It was very specific, just that truck, and just on a new truck. I know that doesn't seem like much today but remember most trucks were less than 20,000 back then.

[Carl n Susan]

I too had an 81 Chevy 3/4 ton pickup. Chevy got hammered for using gas tanks outside the frame (similar to the Pinto problem). They didn't recall them but have us a $1,500 (not $5,000) *IF* we bought a new one. That wasn't nearly enough to justify a new truck.

[432bartman]

This might be the problem, which I just read on a Duramax forum:

I work for a GM dealer in Canada, and the issue that affects these trucks is Hydro Lock. I only learnt late yesterday afternoon that one of the High Country trucks 3500 is being purchased back and I will get a replacement unit from GM. The issue seems to be very serious to the point that they want the engine swap done at the Flint assembly.

[Foldbak]

Originally Posted by 432bartman

This might be the problem, which I just read on a Duramax forum:

I work for a GM dealer in Canada, and the issue that affects these trucks is Hydro Lock. I only learnt late yesterday afternoon that one of the High Country trucks 3500 is being purchased back and I will get a replacement unit from GM. The issue seems to be very serious to the point that they want the engine swap done at the Flint assembly.

Are they doing a straight no cost swap? According to Edmuns my 2020 2500 is valued at $86702. I have a balance of $45000. So swap my 2020 for a brand new 2022?

[432bartman]

Originally Posted by Foldbak

Are they doing a straight no cost swap? According to Edmuns my 2020 2500 is valued at $86702. I have a balance of $45000. So swap my 2020 for a brand new 2022?

From reading more on it, it looks like it is for 2022 models. I don't think any 20 or 21 models have the issue. The few trucks involved will be bought back and destroyed.

[wed]

I was talking to a friend that has one unlike me I have a F350 but he was trying to find out more info

[Foldbak]

Originally Posted by 432bartman

From reading more on it, it looks like it is for 2022 models. I don't think any 20 or 21 models have the issue. The few trucks involved will be bought back and destroyed.

This from the GMC forums. I guess we'll find out tomorrow.