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03-29-2020, 08:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: lake stevens
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M.O.C. #24938
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Here is a install video for the DeeZee Tank which is the same process. As you can see the DeeZee tank sits higher than the bed whereas the ATI sits below
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03-29-2020, 08:37 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Renton
Posts: 362
M.O.C. #13959
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One of the best investments I've made. Went from a 26 gallon factory tank to a 52 gallon Titan tank and now I can chose where to refuel, and not be forced into it at a high price or poor location. For us, it was a great upgrade. The only drawback is that on my 2006 Silverado the gauges are now off by 1/2, but consumption is spot on.
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03-29-2020, 09:42 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Sanger
Posts: 46
M.O.C. #20773
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I love my Transfer Flo, works great. Instilled it to go to Alaska
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03-30-2020, 03:35 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Westerville
Posts: 39
M.O.C. #22500
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Originally Posted by lightsout
I have the same tank however I had them install a Fuel guage on the tank, I paid $600 delivered and self installed which is very easy. The ATI 46 gal is one of the few (including all brands) that fit under a Tonneau cover virtually all others set higher.
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Do you have that level indication in the cab?
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03-30-2020, 05:32 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Livermore
Posts: 492
M.O.C. #17391
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I just have a tanker truck follow me around. Just like in the movies. It just pulls along side and the wife gets into the bed and grabs the nozzle and fills the tank. Just like in the movies.
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03-30-2020, 11:43 AM
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#46
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: lake stevens
Posts: 504
M.O.C. #24938
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeRP
Do you have that level indication in the cab?
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No it (the fuel Gauge) is on the tank, My 2019 Ram 3500 has NO dash space available and I did not want to install a ugly gauge below the dash so I had ATI build it in the tank. You really do not need a gauge with a gravity flow as what matters is what is in your main tank. You should always use the fuel in your AUX tank 1st so that will keep your main tank showing full til the AUX is empty. So to answer your question you will know when your Aux is empty and still have 250-300 miles left. The Gauge on that tank is just a reference point for filling and what is left when I make my stops so as long as my main tank gauge shows full that is all that matters.
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03-30-2020, 01:27 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 383
M.O.C. #21993
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In my 2008 I swapped the 20 whatever Gal for a 52Gal, believe I got that back when I traded it in.
I had a 50 Gal Transfer Flow put in the 2018 (total 86 Gal) and love it, no issues with gauges, sits below the bed, takes up little room, pumps to level the tanks and someone else did it.
I figure it cost me $200.00 more to do that than to source everything, buy it, pay for the shipping, my time to put it in twice since it seams to never go right the first time and bandages.
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03-30-2020, 03:54 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lightsout
I just bought a new Ram 3500 short bed. However I added a Aux tank in the bed 46 gal Cost about $476 and installed myself (easy install). So now I have 78 Gallons. Replacing the Fuel tank would have impacted my warranty whereas the Aux does not. Best part is it is 1/3rd the cost and if I buy a new truck the tank can go with me in the future.
https://www.tankandbarrel.com/rectan...nk-p-1208.html
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I bought a tank similar to this from ATI(Aluminum Tank Industries out of Florida) but mine is the 51G version. I looked and researched it to death, as I have a tendency to do. For the S&B or Titan, the price versus the fuel I was getting just didn't compute well enough. The 51G ATI I bought was under $550 and I added a 12V electric valve and manual shutoff(in case of emergency) so I can fill while traveling. Now, before you say you shouldn't drive that long, I don't. I have an incredibly bad back and have to get out every so often and walk and I enjoy not having to find a fuel station that is full of trucks. A simple exit on the interstate or better yet, a rest area does great. I use it to mainly avoid buying the higher priced fuel on the interstates as I can usually make it to most campgrounds and then go to a high volume Wally, Racetrac, etc for a much lower price. Mine does stick up above the rails of the truck, but for me that was fine as I already have a low profile toolbox. I now have 88G theoretically, but I only count on about 80G for the trip. I'm not one of these that runs a truck low anymore after getting caught on an interstate for nearly 5 hours back in 2012 on a bad wreck. So, this works for me. Here's a couple of pics.
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03-31-2020, 08:22 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Knoxville
Posts: 51
M.O.C. #24025
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Montana Man
Note that 51 gals usable is not practical. I never tow up to the last gallon of fuel. Also with the Ram, the fuel gauge will not even be close to accurate. The latest info on reprogramming the Ram fuel level is forget it. The factory won't allow it. Hopefully they change that. When installing the new tank I recommend putting in 5 gallons and note the gauge. Then 20 more gallons. Then fill to the gills.
You are right about fueling at your convenience. That in itself is worth it.
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With the right app, yes you can make your gauge as close to accurate as possible. To me, with a gravity fed tank, it makes no difference what the gauge says until my transfer tank is empty and I am on my main tank. I never close the ball valve on my aux tank. My RDS tank came with a gauge installed from the manufacture. And as I said before, I would rather stop when I want to also, not because I have to.
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03-31-2020, 08:26 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: muskegon
Posts: 91
M.O.C. #25138
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golfmedik, have you considered putting some sort of shielding around the pump and valve? I'd be concerned that if I were carrying something small enough to go under the toolbox that it might fly forward in a sudden braking and damage or bust the line
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03-31-2020, 03:34 PM
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#51
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet28
golfmedik, have you considered putting some sort of shielding around the pump and valve? I'd be concerned that if I were carrying something small enough to go under the toolbox that it might fly forward in a sudden braking and damage or bust the line
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I have a shield made from pressure treated 2x6 that fully surrounds the valves to protect them. I never took a pic of it because you really can't see it.
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03-31-2020, 05:24 PM
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#52
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
Posts: 2,017
M.O.C. #21963
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walt & Vicki
With the right app, yes you can make your gauge as close to accurate as possible. To me, with a gravity fed tank, it makes no difference what the gauge says until my transfer tank is empty and I am on my main tank. I never close the ball valve on my aux tank. My RDS tank came with a gauge installed from the manufacture. And as I said before, I would rather stop when I want to also, not because I have to.
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What app is that?
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03-31-2020, 07:57 PM
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#53
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Knoxville
Posts: 51
M.O.C. #24025
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Montana Man
What app is that?
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Alfaobd
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2015 Ram 3500 Dually G56 ViAir/Hellwig Onboard Air/Springs BD 2Low Kit RDS 95 Gal Tank/Combo American Force 19.5 Falken Bi 850 225/70 19.5
2018 3730FL
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03-31-2020, 08:18 PM
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#54
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: muskegon
Posts: 91
M.O.C. #25138
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golfmedik, Great
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04-01-2020, 04:40 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Huntertown
Posts: 41
M.O.C. #23154
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I have a question for those of you with a gravity feed aux tank. When both tanks are low, and you are re-fueling, does it matter which tank you fill first?
Also, my 2019 Ram does not have a fuel cap. It has the push through check valve. Anyone have any issues with the aux tank back flowing out that filler neck?
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04-01-2020, 07:33 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Charleston
Posts: 463
M.O.C. #23094
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Option 65
I have a question for those of you with a gravity feed aux tank. When both tanks are low, and you are re-fueling, does it matter which tank you fill first?
Also, my 2019 Ram does not have a fuel cap. It has the push through check valve. Anyone have any issues with the aux tank back flowing out that filler neck?
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You need to fill the stock tank first as the feed from the aux tank is a very slow trickle/stream of fuel. With the aux tank fill kit there is no worries of back flowing through the cap. There is a float ball valve in the T fitting of the kit. When fuel reaches this ball valve (before it gets to the cap) it shuts off the valve and stops the flow from the aux tank. Simple and it works perfectly when installed correctly.
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04-01-2020, 11:26 AM
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#57
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: lake stevens
Posts: 504
M.O.C. #24938
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Option 65
I have a question for those of you with a gravity feed aux tank. When both tanks are low, and you are re-fueling, does it matter which tank you fill first?
Also, my 2019 Ram does not have a fuel cap. It has the push through check valve. Anyone have any issues with the aux tank back flowing out that filler neck?
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As mentioned above that is not an issue for gravity feed however it is a issue for a active pump system. I have gravity now but the F350 I recently traded had the electric pump, the switch was a timer (like a bathroom fan timer) that was so it was not left on, because while driving you cannot hear the pump and over filling can be come an issue.
After have both pump and gravity feed I much prefer Gravity fed.... There is NO benefit to electric pump just another system to potentially fail, maintain or cause issues (over filling). Gravity fed just turn valve on and forget about it it is automatic...
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04-01-2020, 11:43 AM
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#58
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Knoxville
Posts: 51
M.O.C. #24025
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As said above, gravity feed is the only system I would have. The KISS method is better for most everything.
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2015 Ram 3500 Dually G56 ViAir/Hellwig Onboard Air/Springs BD 2Low Kit RDS 95 Gal Tank/Combo American Force 19.5 Falken Bi 850 225/70 19.5
2018 3730FL
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04-01-2020, 03:04 PM
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#59
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: woodstock
Posts: 546
M.O.C. #8174
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Just put a tank in the truck bed! Get one as big as you need and it will cost less! I put a 69 gal in my truck and I have moved it from truck when I trade!
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Montana Master
Woodstock Ga
2020 3931 FB Legacy
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04-01-2020, 03:07 PM
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#60
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: lake stevens
Posts: 504
M.O.C. #24938
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wed
Just put a tank in the truck bed! Get one as big as you need and it will cost less! I put a 69 gal in my truck and I have moved it from truck when I trade!
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Be careful a tank that size will put most SRW over payload when towing 35' or more, that is a lot of weight. Bigger does not always mean better.
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