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12-18-2013, 06:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
M.O.C. #12339
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Frozen Water Hose?
I often joke about the "great weather" we have in Northern California. *Since we use our Montana nearly every weekend, and the fact freezing temps are rare, I don't winterize. *The problem we experienced two weeks ago involved a froze water hose. *I am sure this will turn out to be a stupid question. *What do you do to keep water hose from freezing? *I covered mine, but during the night we got 6 inches of snow, in Redding. *We were camping near Shasta Lake and temps dropped more than I expected. *Do I wrap it in blankets, buy a heating element ? *Please advise.*
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12-18-2013, 10:24 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Belvidere
Posts: 1,834
M.O.C. #185
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Suggestions:
1. Put water in your holding tank and switch to using your water pump for water needs. Remove and drain your water hose and store in your basement.
2. Another trick that works well is to open a faucet in the rig so that it just drips. This constant movement of water will prevent the line from freezing. Open your sewer valve for the tank you're using.
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12-19-2013, 12:18 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Goldsboro
Posts: 288
M.O.C. #9143
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We camp in freezing weather routinely. I do what Steve does (option 1). I also carry an extra hose all of the time as well, so swapping them out if one freezes is my second option.
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12-19-2013, 12:33 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 4,200
M.O.C. #11401
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I do the same things as others here. There is a hose with a heat strip built in available at Camping World.
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12-19-2013, 01:10 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Pasco
Posts: 91
M.O.C. #13075
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I bought a good heavy duty water hose (drinking water safe) laid heat tape on it, then used electrical tape every 6in to secure to hose, then put that round foam pipe insulation over that and duct taped it end to end. Be careful to leave the temp sensor exposed with the black little button touching the hose. We have been below zero here with the wind chills and has worked fine, with no frozen hose.
Or as previously stated you can buy a premade heated hose from many camping supply stores that are guaranteed down to -40 degrees.
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12-19-2013, 01:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2003
Location: New Bern
Posts: 4,294
M.O.C. #311
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When I was parked long term (over a couple months) I put heat tape on my hose and the used pipe insulation. There are commercial hoses (farm use for one) with the heat tape included in the design/assembly. They are expensive but available.
Now I am moving weekly I do as other and fill my holding tank, drain the hose and reconnect when extra water is need.
Safe travels.
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12-19-2013, 02:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Englewood
Posts: 3,095
M.O.C. #164
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When traveling I carry a spare hose so if we wake to a frozen hose I just connect the spare.If I know it is going to dip below freezing I will disconnect hose let drain over the bed of truck connect in the Am this is just for short term over night when we are headed to Fl.Heat tape is the way to go long term something we do not do.Warm Weather is Camping Weather for us!!
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12-19-2013, 03:47 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wheatland
Posts: 675
M.O.C. #10623
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We've been traveling fulltime for over 8 years for Carols job and have ended up in some very cold places for the winter, Hardin, Montana being the coldest. We learned a long time ago that your on board water tank is your friend. We keep ours full all the time we are stopped for work, usually 13 weeks at a time. That means we waste the water by emptying it on the ground or water the flowers with it before we leave, but that's just the way life is.
We also keep heat tape on our water line, but unhook it and drain it when the temps are going to be in single digits and use our on board water tank. The unhooking it applies to previous years as this year we are fully skirted with heat tape, heat lamps, etc.
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12-19-2013, 06:59 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
M.O.C. #12339
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Thanks everyone. The use tank water sounds great. I maintain my tanks to high specs. I might as well use that water!
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12-19-2013, 07:31 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington Coast
Posts: 2,688
M.O.C. #10696
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That just makes me nervous to leave the water trickling when the tanks are closed ,I just put heat tape like Dave and others and leave the heat on to 62 at night and never had any problems with freezing in 3 years of fulltiming in cold weather
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12-19-2013, 07:59 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Belvidere
Posts: 1,834
M.O.C. #185
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by bigskyjimmy
That just makes me nervous to leave the water trickling when the tanks are closed ,I just put heat tape like Dave and others and leave the heat on to 62 at night and never had any problems with freezing in 3 years of fulltiming in cold weather
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Didn't say to leave the tanks closed...it was stated to leave them open. Many of us have used this procedure with temps in the low 30's and high 20's with no problems. It is simply a much easier way to avoid freeze-up in low temp for short periods.
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12-19-2013, 08:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington Coast
Posts: 2,688
M.O.C. #10696
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Yeah but if you leave them open you end up with a block of ice in your hose,either way not a big fan of leaving the water trickling UNLESS you do not have a heated hose,with my first 5th I did that and that is exactly what happened and it was real fun sitting with a hair dryer for an hour thawing it out in 10 degree weather so I could empty my poop tank
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quote:Originally posted by steves
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quote:Originally posted by bigskyjimmy
That just makes me nervous to leave the water trickling when the tanks are closed ,I just put heat tape like Dave and others and leave the heat on to 62 at night and never had any problems with freezing in 3 years of fulltiming in cold weather
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Didn't say to leave the tanks closed...it was stated to leave them open. Many of us have used this procedure with temps in the low 30's and high 20's with no problems. It is simply a much easier way to avoid freeze-up in low temp for short periods.
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12-19-2013, 09:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Belvidere
Posts: 1,834
M.O.C. #185
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Yeah but if you leave them open you end up with a block of ice in your hose,either way not a big fan of leaving the water trickling.
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Do what you are comfortable with. I am just passing on another easy way to keep from freezing your water line in temps that are low for a short duration. I have never had a freezing problem in the sewer line. Again this method is not meant to be used for days with below freezing temps but for overnight situations when the temp drops for a few hours. To clarify - the water should not trickle but only needs to drip.
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12-19-2013, 09:30 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Roswell
Posts: 627
M.O.C. #12028
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Three words "Pirit Heated Hose" had one for years no problems
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12-19-2013, 12:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Frostproof, FL USA
Posts: 2,362
M.O.C. #13272
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by grayghost03
Three words "Pirit Heated Hose" had one for years no problems
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That is the one I purchased. It comes on when it needs to. I also have left my faucet running at night when temps are 6-10 above zero. I adjust it so it is just a pencil lead thick stream of warm water, furnace set on 62, additional heat going to convenience center, and grey tanks open. I never had any stinky slinky drain freeze up, but my black and grey gate valves took turns freezing up.
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